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    News Emily Samuelson/Evan Bates Make Coaching Change to Shpilband and Zoueva


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    Oh, another coaching change.



    Well, I hope everything goes well with them!


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    I like it ! I've felt S/B suffered from a weakness in their FD choreography for the last couple of years. I expect this will change , now.

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    This is likely a very expensive move on the part of Samuelson/Bates. Shpilband and Zoueva are not cheap at all, especially after the Olympics when their teams now occupy the #1 and #2 spots of the Olympic and World podium. My guess is S/B feels this move is necessary because they have become more or less stagnant in the last two years and being passed by the #2 Canadian team of Crone/Poirier at Worlds must worry them. They haven't really moved up compared to the 2009 season and in fact, except the Olympic Games, their 2010 season has been quite disappointing. The Worlds in Torino wasn't that much better considering 3 top teams were absent compared to Vancouver, 4 if you count K/N.

    Would this move work? I think it's a big gamble. If the 2011 season doesn't produce the desired results, this expensive move may prove to be too costly. There are many other teams who will be pressuring them from behind, in addition to the teams ahead of them that they will try to beat. With B/A's retirement, this means the top two US Ice Dance teams will be coached by the same coaches but will Shpilband and Zoueva be able to work the same magic on them as they do with D/W and V/M? If I were S/B, I'd think a change is necessary but whether the high expense/cost involved is justified or not is difficult to say.

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    This makes me think V/M aren't going to compete competitively for at least this upcoming year as that rink is really getting crowded (not that it wasn't before). I want to say that with Shpilband and Zoueva, Evan and Emily will be able to beat D/W sometime in the not-so-distant future. Interesting that Zoueva's programs really rise above the competition when there's some sort of romantic theme-- something D/W (and C/Z) cannot pull off-- naturally, at least-- for their lives...but even though Evan and Emily are just friends, they are pretty talented at emoting the romantic vibe and I see this working for them like it did for V/M. I see great Zoueva programs for Evan & Emily this year! Especially looking forward to a FD that isn't cheesy
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    Quote Originally Posted by cornell08 View Post
    This makes me think V/M aren't going to compete competitively for at least this upcoming year.
    Sorry, you lost me. What does that have anything to do with whatever decision V/M will make?

    Quote Originally Posted by cornell08 View Post
    I want to say that with Shpilband and Zoueva, Evan and Emily will be able to beat D/W sometime in the not-so-distant future.
    That is highly unlikely. Being coached by S/Z hardly guarantees specific results. The Shibutani were also coached by S/Z but ended up 5th at the Junior Worlds despite being the favorite for Gold. Same goes for the #5 Canadian team. Coach is important but the skaters themselves matter even more. Personally, I don't see in S/B enough physical attractiveness or maturity or unique abilities on ice that make them special enough to sustain a rocket rise to the top and they haven't, which is why they have been stagnant. What they need the most right now is to become a team composed of a man and a woman, not a boy and a girl.

    Quote Originally Posted by cornell08 View Post
    but even though Evan and Emily are just friends like D/W are, they are pretty talented at emoting the romantic vibe. I see great Zoueva programs for Evan & Emily this year! Especially looking forward to a FD that isn't cheesy
    They look like a very young team of big boy and a big girl. In Ice Dance, that generally means judges won't take you seriously.

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    Havn't Evan and Emily trained at that rink the past years? I thought they were actually working with Shipilband/Zoueva already. This is a great move for them, since I think they are a beautiful tram to watch. This does seem to hint that Virtue and Moir won't be returning, i really hope not though. They are so young and so much more to accomplish that cannot be measured in medals alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallylutz View Post
    They look like a very young team of big boy and a big girl....
    Moreso than Davis and White or Virtue and Moir? All three teams have a youthful vibe, in comparison, say, to Delobel and Schoenfelder. (Or Anissina and Peizerat,or any combination of Grishuk,Platov, Usova and Zhulin. )

    About Delobel and Schoenfelder, you don't have to be all lovey-dovey all the time to be "man and woman." Both Davis and White and Virtue and Moir have a lot of "kids playing grown-up" in their performances, in my humble opinion.

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