Yuzuru Hanyu has a Quad

[Jaana]

Good for him but will he put it in a competition? How does doing a quad effect his spins and footwork and doing jumps after the halfway point in a free skate? I am just thinking of the fact that Brezina does a great one and hasn't done it in a competition. There are so many factors that must be considered now that the Olympic Gold medalists proved you dont need one.

I feel it is very unfortunate that Lysacek got injured because of quad practices and had to stop having that jump in his programme. I think though that it is necessary for a future skater to have a quad, but that is not all. A skater needs to have a great choreography and to shine on every other skating area, too.

[Joesitz]

Miki Ando had/has a Quad but we never saw it in competition.

[MikiAndoFan#1]

Miki Ando had/has a Quad but we never saw it in competition.

Have you not seen her LP from the 2002 JGPF? She landed one there and it was ratified. She also landed one at the 2008 GPF, but it was downgraded.



So, we did see it competition.

[BR@ZILIANSK@TER]

[QUOTE=gmyers;501328]Good for him but will he put it in a competition? How does doing a quad effect his spins and footwork and doing jumps after the halfway point in a free skate? I am just thinking of the fact that Brezina does a great one and hasn't done it in a competition. There are so many factors that must be considered now that the Olympic Gold medalists proved you dont need one.[/QUOTE]

In Vancouver the quad was not needed in a field with a few men trying quads (and all men who did quads had mistakes on their programs, including Plushenko with his wild langing on the solo 3 axel and 3lutz combo). If Takahashi landed that quad I don´t know if Evan would be Olympic champion today. So my point is: the quad is very important!!! There is a generation of young men raising showing impressive quads.

Also I really hope to see more and more guys doing quads again as we used to see in the 1994-2004 era!!! Men fig. skating was so excinting at that time.

[gmyers]

I feel it is very unfortunate that Lysacek got injured because of quad practices and had to stop having that jump in his programme. I think though that it is necessary for a future skater to have a quad, but that is not all. A skater needs to have a great choreography and to shine on every other skating area, too.

But because Lysacek showed that you don't need a quad people will be like "for competitions I will do triples and work on my spins and steps and just forget the quad." There is no reason to actually put the quad in a program if you can get all triples. Also why do a quad if you can move a triple after the halfway point and get the bonus. These are all the things that Lysaceks performance showed. No quads.

Good for him but will he put it in a competition? How does doing a quad effect his spins and footwork and doing jumps after the halfway point in a free skate? I am just thinking of the fact that Brezina does a great one and hasn't done it in a competition. There are so many factors that must be considered now that the Olympic Gold medalists proved you dont need one.

In Vancouver the quad was not needed in a field with a few men trying quads (and all men who did quads had mistakes on their programs, including Plushenko with his wild langing on the solo 3 axel and 3lutz combo). If Takahashi landed that quad I don´t know if Evan would be Olympic champion today. So my point is: the quad is very important!!! There is a generation of young men raising showing impressive quads.

Also I really hope to see more and more guys doing quads again as we used to see in the 1994-2004 era!!! Men fig. skating was so excinting at that time.

This is a very important point because the quad does a lot of time lead to mistakes. So Lysacek winning gold with triple jumps and five after the haflway point showed that doing a quad is not really smart. It takes a lot out of skaters and you can get enough points to do a gold medal without one. Plushenko did a quad triple and maybe the stress of that lead to the axel and lutz problems. And Takahashi fell on his quad. Lysacek had no quad and won gold. Olympic Gold. So a skater might try quads just because it was something in the past that impressed people but be like for competitions the "Gold standard" does not include a quad anymore. The quad will be for personal satisfaction but is vanishing rapidly from Gold medal winning skates. For competitions the quad is not smart to do. It does take too much out of a skater a lot of the time or is just really hard to land. Lysacek showed gold medalists don't do quads.

[BR@ZILIANSK@TER]

For competitions the quad is not smart to do. It does take too much out of a skater a lot of the time or is just really hard to land. Lysacek showed gold medalists don't do quads.

If this becomes truth, let me get ready for a lot of "boring skating" champions in the future years...

Maybe that´s what ISU wants after all.. with cleaner and safer programs general people (who don´t understand figure skating elements) will enjoy more watching the televisioned competitions and ISU will be able to make more money with Fig. Skating tv transmision. Good for ISU´s pocket, BAD FOR ME!!!!

It was so excinting when men would push each other to improve techicaly... will it be buried in the past???

Ps.: I REALLY AM A QUAD JUMPS LOVER!!!!!