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    The ISU Congress is now over; New Communications are appearing.

    According to Communication 1609 the Congress has started about 100 minutes ago.
    If I understand correctly they must have determined by now whether the ""Urgent Matters" in Communication 1615 should be certified into the agenda.

    Will we have any information from Barcelona on what's going on in the meetings?

    SkateCanadaCEO's twittering has stopped since yesterday .... no other deligates twittering?

    Non-deligates are now on Gaudi tour BTW .... Thursday it's Modernism tour.
    Might be mistaken as an Architectural Congress, LOL.
    Who pays for these sightseeings?

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    3A allowed instead of 2A for Ladies SP

    According to Kyodo News London, the proposal to allow choosing 3A/2A in the SP for ladies has passed the ISU Congress.

    However, the Japanese proposal on re-defining the bonus points was rejected.

    http://sportsnavi.yahoo.co.jp/winter...do_sp-spo.html

    Other than this, you can read on FSU that the French "Urgent Matter" proposal was also rejected, and also, surprisingly, the ISU Counsil proposal on Senior/Junior age limit was mostly rejected, if I understand correctly.

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    I heard that about the senior/jr age limits for pairs/dance did not pass and glad I am of it.

    Novice age limits changed.

    And the CD's were eliminated for both Jrs and Srs, about which I am totally gutted.

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    So the randam draw is finally gone!!!

    And it wasn't ISU proposal but Canadian! And IIRC from several countries...

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    Ve-e-r-r-y interesting from beverly Smith ;

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...rticle1607867/

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    Quote Originally Posted by sorcerer View Post
    So the randam draw is finally gone!!!
    And replaced by what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    And the CD's were eliminated for both Jrs and Srs, about which I am totally gutted.
    me too

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    And the CD's were eliminated for both Jrs and Srs
    Another chapter in the ISU's long running campaign: "Let's alienate current fans by doing something that won't help us get any new ones."

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    Yes, I agree. The new Short Dance seems to incorporate the worst features of the CD and the OD

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    Quote Originally Posted by sorcerer View Post

    However, the Japanese proposal on re-defining the bonus points was rejected.
    Hello, just making sure, you are referring to the urgent matter proposal, right? The 2-point bonus for the most technically rigorous program? I never thought that would get passed. It's not very practical. The French one is to scrap 4CC and Euros during an Olympic year, right? I'm glad that didn't pass. Is there more news from the front?
    Last edited by dlgpffps; 06-18-2010 at 05:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlgpffps View Post
    Hello, just making sure, you are referring to the urgent matter proposal, right? The 2-point bonus for the most technically rigorous program? I never thought that would get passed. It's not very practical. The French one is to scrap 4CC and Euros during an Olympic year, right? I'm glad that didn't pass. Is there more news from the front?
    Yes to 2 questions.
    I'm sure there are posters here that have some sort of access to faster information on what's going on in Barcelona. I thought this thread would draw such news in, but already we'll get some ISU press release today, won't we?

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    I am surprised nobody posted yet that today Canada was awarded the 2013 worlds which will be held in London, On:
    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2010/...su-figure.html

    With this I am fully convinced that the Virtue / Moir fans can celebrate, because London is Tessa's hometown, and I am now certain they will stay in for the full next Olympic cycle.

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    Yep. Part one of my fantasy, complete.

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    Re: The ISU Congress now in procedure

    Communication 1621 Ice Dance is out,
    http://isu.sportcentric.net/db//files/serve.php?id=1893
    and I've had a chance to skim its 19 pages.

    Here's the music limitations on the FD:

    c) The music for Free Dance must be suitable for Ice Dance as a sport discipline and must have the following
    characteristics:
    i) The music must have an audible rhythmic beat and melody, or audible rhythmic beat alone, but not
    melody alone, and may be vocal. The music may be without an audible rhythmic beat for up to 10
    seconds at the beginning or end of the program and up to 10 seconds during the program.
    ii) The music must have at least one change of tempo and/or expression. This change may be gradual or
    immediate, but in either case it must be obvious.
    iii) All music including classical music must be cut/edited, orchestrated or arranged in a way that it creates
    an interesting, colourful, entertaining dance program with different moods or a building effect.
    iv) The music must be suitable for the couple's skating skills and technical ability.
    Free Dances that do not adhere to these guidelines will be severely penalized.
    One thing that is comforting is the way the music deduction is to be enforced:

    5. Rule 353 paragraph 1. n) ii) - Deductions for music, costume and props violations
    - Violation of music restrictions (Free Dance) – 2.0;
    - costume and prop violation – 1.0;
    The Judges and Referee will press a button on their screen to apply the above mentioned deductions. It will be
    decided by the majority of the Panel which includes all the Judges and the Referee and no deduction in case of a
    50:50 split vote);
    - part of the costume/decoration fall on the ice – 1.0. The Referee alone is responsible for this deduction.
    That is, the over half the judges must find your music not "uplifting" or is not a foxtrot, if your paperwork claimed it is a foxtrot in the new short dance, for you to get a deduction.

    Jumps (or throw jumps) of more than one (1) revolution or jumps of one (1) revolution skated at the same
    time by both partners;
    in the Short Dance.

    Both D&W and V&M have used items that could look like throw jumps-the jump prohibitions are now expliciting extended to them.

    Those that worry that the CD has been removed for juniors should note that 2 repetitions of the Viennese Waltz are required during the SD, so that the ability to repeat the pattern is being tested.

    i) Required Elements:
    The composition of the Short Dance in the season 2010/2011 will contain 5 Required Elements in total:
    – 2 Required Elements in the Pattern Dance part:
    Junior - 2 sequence of the Viennese Waltz performed one after the other will be considered as two Required
    Elements (see paragraph 2 below);
    Senior -1 sequence of the Golden Waltz is divided into 2 sections and each of these sections is considered as
    one of the two Required Elements (see paragraph 2 below);
    As a viewer who has not seen the program before, it may be hard at first to pick out when the CD section starts since the skaters are encouraged not to put the CD at the beginning of the program.

    Note: Because the dance should be choreographed as an integrated program, and not 2 separate parts, the Pattern Dance part
    can be placed anywhere in the program: the beginning, the middle, or the end. A dance that begins with the Pattern Dance
    part, and then simply changes to the Creative part, will be considered choreographically inferior to a program which
    integrates the 2 parts together in a seamless way.

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