Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 LastLast
Results 31 to 45 of 48

Thread: When will Fumie Suguri retire?

  1. #31
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Posts
    7,542
    If the Japanese Federation is willing to send her to the GP, then why shouldn't Fumie Suguri continue her competitive career?

  2. #32
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Texas, United States
    Posts
    4,957
    It would be cool if Fumie skated competitively into her 40s. I don't think that's ever happened before. Maybe Gizmo will join her.

  3. #33
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Posts
    2,040
    I'm surprised she's continuing but I always say let them retire when they are ready. It doesn't matter how I feel about them. I rather them retire when they are ready rather than a injury force them to do so.

  4. #34
    nefertiti..reincarnate
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Tokyo
    Posts
    865
    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    Trivia questions:

    1. Rank these all-time great Japanese skaters in order of how many Japanese national Championships they won:

    Miki Ando, Shizuka Arakawa, Mao Asada, Miwa Fukahara, Etsaka Inada, Midori Ito, Yukari Nakano, Akiko Suzuki, Yuka Sato, Emi Watanabe (Hint: Fumie has five. )

    2. What Japanese male skater has more National Championships than any female? (Hint: his daughter has two as well -- I am not sure if his father also has one, in 1931-32?).
    I had to look for the answers in Japanese Wikipedia, and yes some surprises! Thanks for the questions, especially #1!

  5. #35
    nefertiti..reincarnate
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Tokyo
    Posts
    865
    Fumie started twittering some 33 hours ago.

    http://twitter.com/fumiesuguri

    Still in Japanese only but if you @ her in English she might return in the same language...

  6. #36
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Posts
    4,147

    Re: When will Fumie Suguri retire?

    Anyone have any predictions look at her grand prix events how she will fare? I see around a 6th place finish in both.

  7. #37
    nefertiti..reincarnate
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Tokyo
    Posts
    865

    Re: When will Fumie Suguri retire?

    She'll start off this year with Tokyo regionals so we'll know how she does there and predict afterwards.

  8. #38
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    The Sunshine State
    Posts
    163

    Re: When will Fumie Suguri retire?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blades of Passion
    That's what I find troubling. This has honestly been her downfall throughout her entire career. She never pushed herself hard enough to get a Triple-Triple combination and she didn't work on her flexibility either to improve her Spirals (and Spins).
    You can fault her genetics for her lack of flexibility, but it's ridiculous to say she didn't push herself. She learned all those damn catchfoot spirals, I-spin, and donut spin to adapt to the CoP. She's gone for 2 flips and 2 lutzes since 2004. She's overcome multiple injuries since 2002. That doesn't sound like someone who "didn't push herself hard enough."

    BTW, here's a recent interview of hers. Sheds some light on her desire to continue instead of retiring like others want her to: http://www.japanskates.com/blog/

    JS: Is the Japan Skating Federation supportive of your decision to keep skating?

    FS: Yes, they are. I think I have to offer them a lot, you know… When I was young, they helped me so much, so now it’s my turn to give back to them. So that’s what I’m thinking for the next few years.

  9. #39
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    2,702

    Re: When will Fumie Suguri retire?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fozzie Bear View Post
    You can fault her genetics for her lack of flexibility, but it's ridiculous to say she didn't push herself. She learned all those damn catchfoot spirals, I-spin, and donut spin to adapt to the CoP. She's gone for 2 flips and 2 lutzes since 2004. She's overcome multiple injuries since 2002. That doesn't sound like someone who "didn't push herself hard enough."

    BTW, here's a recent interview of hers. Sheds some light on her desire to continue instead of retiring like others want her to: http://www.japanskates.com/blog/
    Fumie is great. She's medaled 3 times at worlds. She's a GPF champion. She's a 4CC champion. I'd say she's one of the most successful skaters right now.

  10. #40
    Skating is art, if you let it be. Blades of Passion's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Hollywood, CA
    Posts
    3,990

    Re: When will Fumie Suguri retire?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fozzie Bear View Post
    You can fault her genetics for her lack of flexibility, but it's ridiculous to say she didn't push herself. She learned all those damn catchfoot spirals, I-spin, and donut spin to adapt to the CoP. She's gone for 2 flips and 2 lutzes since 2004. She's overcome multiple injuries since 2002. That doesn't sound like someone who "didn't push herself hard enough."
    Catchfoot spirals aren't hard to learn. EVERY competitor had to do that. She didn't specifically focus on trying to improve her positions, though. Her genetics doesn't have much to do with it. Sure, she might never have an amazing Spiral Sequence, but it could have been better. Yu-Na Kim didn't have much flexibility 4 years ago, but look how much her stretch has improved since then. Yu-Na's genetics didn't suddenly change.

    2Flips and 2Lutzes is whatever. Fumie does that because she doesn't have a 3Loop and it's really the minimum for a top-level skater to be attempting, considering the lack of a 3-3 combination. In some competitions during recent years she hasn't even attempted a 3Sal...she only does toe-pick jumps and double axels. I've also only seen her attempt a 3-jump combination ONCE in her entire career and doing the 3-jump combination is very important with CoP.

    So, again, she hasn't attempted to really improve her skating. She keeps dropping her level of skating, in fact.

  11. #41
    can't come down to Earth prettykeys's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    1,801

    Re: When will Fumie Suguri retire?

    This is going to be very rude to ask, but does anyone here actually want to see Fumie's skating anymore? I haven't been paying attention to her, possibly because she is, as some of the criticisms here state, deteriorating technically and uninspiring artistically. Her show skate "Padam Padam" is just awkward. I'm not saying these things to be disparaging, but there is something to be said for retiring gracefully and knowing when it's time. Fumie was underscored at the 2006 Oly's and I feel for her; she skated well at the time and was not credited properly. That was the first time I ever saw her, and I took notice of her. However, since then, she hasn't even been a blip on my radar.

  12. #42
    Gotta Have Music iluvtodd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Philadelphia, PA
    Posts
    10,670

    Re: When will Fumie Suguri retire?

    Quote Originally Posted by prettykeys View Post
    This is going to be very rude to ask, but does anyone here actually want to see Fumie's skating anymore?.
    I do , and I hope I'm not alone in that regard! I've always enjoyed her.

  13. #43
    can't come down to Earth prettykeys's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    1,801

    Re: When will Fumie Suguri retire?

    Quote Originally Posted by iluvtodd View Post
    I do , and I hope I'm not alone in that regard! I've always enjoyed her.
    Well, that's good, then. I just felt too many of the posts defending her decision to go on were...reactive rather than affirmative. Since she remains sponsored, there must be others like you.

  14. #44
    Custom Title MikiAndoFan#1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Portugal
    Posts
    2,864

    Re: When will Fumie Suguri retire?

    Quote Originally Posted by iluvtodd View Post
    I do , and I hope I'm not alone in that regard! I've always enjoyed her.
    Same here!

  15. #45
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    The Sunshine State
    Posts
    163

    Re: When will Fumie Suguri retire?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blades of Passion View Post
    Catchfoot spirals aren't hard to learn. EVERY competitor had to do that. She didn't specifically focus on trying to improve her positions, though.
    Yes, she did. Look at her sit spins. She really had to work on those positions to up the levels. In recent years, most of her spins have gotten level fours. But it's obvious she doesn't have the back flexibility that some others have. Yu-Na's a different case-- her stretch has improved somewhat, but she's always had pretty good flexibility in her back. Both of them would do well to point their toes more, though.

    So, again, she hasn't attempted to really improve her skating.
    And again, I think it's obvious that she has attempted to improve her skating, but there are limitations. Thus the injuries. I get really weary of skating fans thinking that "skater X could achieve so much more if only she weren't so lazy/unmotivated/whatever." We really have no idea what physical and mental demands skater X goes through to attempt these moves that are supposedly so easy.

    Anyway:

    Quote Originally Posted by prettykeys
    This is going to be very rude to ask, but does anyone here actually want to see Fumie's skating anymore?
    Yes. Especially now that's she's back with Lori Nichol.

Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •