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Thread: Rank and Rate the top 5 Men's Long Programs of the 1994 Olympics.

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    Re: Rank and Rate the top 5 Men's Long Programs of the 1994 Olympics.

    My exact rankings of the long programs of the 94 Olympics are:

    1. Petrenko. 5.8 technical, 5.8 presentation. Overall probably the best performance. He did all the jumps strongly though he was missing a triple-triple, good spins, and good overall program, choreography, and line, even if the program was a bit zzzz and typical Petrenko.

    2. Stojko. 5.9 technical, 5.7 presentation. I hate giving him the Olympic Gold medal in retrospect considering he shows he is such a jaded and narrow minded person with a terrible attitude towards the sport. However overall his performance was the best. Very strong technical all around- triple axel-triple toe, 2 triple axels, very good spins, very good footwork. A good program and pretty well delivered too.

    3. Candelero. 5.6 technical, 5.9 presentation. If he had landed the 2nd triple axel I would have given him the gold. As it was that was a big mistake. The rest of the jumps were impressive, some of them huge and dynamic. His jumping technique is not as clean or precise as either Elvis or Urmanov though, even though the jumps are still often huge. His spins were not that strong. I found his program genius and he carried it off so wonderfully.

    4. Urmanov. 5.7 technical, 5.8 presentation. His jumps were strong but he didnt do a triple-triple and he had trouble landing that triple flip. The spins were not very good. The program showed his nice classical lines and nice interpretation but was bland and had too many posing sections. He also didnt seem that fast, albeit neither was Stojko. I dont really think he was technically stronger than Candelero, but I wanted to put him ahead of Browning overall and Candelero behind Stojko overall in the long.

    5. Browning. 5.5 technical, 5.9 presentation. The best program of the event and overall very well delivered. Jumps wise it wasnt strong enough. The 2nd triple axel attempt was a mess, he didnt even try a triple lutz, and the triple flip looked 2 footed.

    6. Boitano. 5.5 technical, 5.6 presentation. Solid other than 1 or 2 mistakes but boring. His jumps dont stand out in amateurs like they do in pros either. I see why every judge agreed on him being 6th in the long. I dont think he would have been a huge factor at these Games even skating cleanly to be honest. In pro competitions he was king, atleast until Browning came into his own, but in amateur competition he was a bit too old and dated. He couldnt even do all the triples anymore either (no triple loop). I

    7. Millot. 5.3 technical, 5.7 presentation. Lots of unclean landings and not even a decent triple axel try.
    Very interesting program, great musical sense for the tango, pretty difficult choreography too.

    8. Cousins. 5.3 technical, 5.6 presentation. Pretty good skate. Shame about the triple axel try miss. Love that music.

    9. Britten. 5.2 technical, 5.6 presentation. Great program and skating, no triple axel tries, and not even all his jumps clean that he did do.

    10. Davis- 5.1 technical, 5.3 presentation. What a hot mess and with the mistakes the program was a bore.

    20. Tatarov- 4.3 technical, 3.9 presentation. I didnt see all the others to know where he should place but this was painful to watch. It looked like a program from the 1700s with a costume and music to fit that era too, but with some poor attempts of 1990s jumps which almost all missed badly, and his sit spins look like an elderly trying to take a dump. How he even got the semi decent marks he did or even made the final flight even with his best skate I will never know.
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    Re: Rank and Rate the top 5 Men's Long Programs of the 1994 Olympics.

    With regard to Boitano, if I remember, he was struggling with back pain that season and so had to forgo the 3Lo and struggled with some of his other jumps (which were also smaller to reduce the pain in his back from landings)

    My rankings for the LP:
    Stojko
    Petrenko
    Candeloro
    Browning
    Urmanov

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    Re: Rank and Rate the top 5 Men's Long Programs of the 1994 Olympics.

    PangTong Fan, wonderful analysis.

    Isn't it interesting how many of us have praised Elvis in terms of quality of his moves. He didn't just do lots of jumps. He did lots of kinds of jumps, and his spins were good as well. I was shocked (in a good way) to see how nice his spins looked in comparison to Urmanov's, who was supposed to be the embodiment of classical style. I always enjoyed Elvis--he had his own style and a kind of rough grace, like the martial artist he is. I don't prefer that style, but I admire it, and also his on-ice confidence and consistency.

    But you all understand why I put Browning first. When else do I get the chance to do that?

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    Re: Rank and Rate the top 5 Men's Long Programs of the 1994 Olympics.

    Updated ranking:

    1. Stojko (1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 5th)
    2. Candeloro (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 5th)
    3. Browning (1st, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 4th, 4th, 4th, 5th)
    4. Petrenko (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 5th, 5th)
    5. Urmanov (1st, 2nd, 4th, 4th, 4th, 4th, 5th, 5th)

    All 5 skaters have both #1 and #5 rankings from people, which is very interesting. Senorita should chime in now! It also sounded like goldenpleasures had an intriguing pro-Urmanov stance.

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    Re: Rank and Rate the top 5 Men's Long Programs of the 1994 Olympics.

    Interesting to see the tabulations so far.

    On the face of it, it looks as if many of us North Americans are biased against Russian/Slavic skating. But I don't think that's so. Just by coincidence, Petrenko and Urmanov are probably the least interesting of the Eastern European Olympians. (This classification takes into account that Petrenko is ex-Soviet bloc but not Russian.) Many of us, if not most of us, would change our tune drastically if some ranking of the subsequent years of Olympic skaters was attempted. I personally would place Kulik over Stojko at that point because Kulik's jumps were so magnificent. Many, if not most, of us would put Yagudin at or near the top of any list we cared to set up, including greatest all-time men's singles skaters. And even those of us who are not particularly Plushy fans would agree that he deserved all the golds he got at various Worlds and Olympics. These three guys didn't just have correct skating style; they had command. They had, in their various ways, electricity. And they had quads! So at that point, Elvis's main strength was no longer enough to rank him above any of them.

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    Re: Rank and Rate the top 5 Men's Long Programs of the 1994 Olympics.

    i think many N American fans would also nominate Petrenko for the Mr. Congeniality award. He seems to be one of those skaters you like not because of sex appeal or because he blows them away but just because he comes off as a really nice guy.

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    I completely agree, Tonichelle! Especially after hearing that story of how he helped that American pairs skater, Katie Wood, who was injured in Odessa, I always think of Petrenko with warmth and admiration. He seems like one of nature's gentlemen.

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    Re: Rank and Rate the top 5 Men's Long Programs of the 1994 Olympics.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blades of Passion View Post
    Senorita should chime in now!
    ok I tried only the Lps right? not who should have won overall. And judging in a very naive way considering only what I liked watching, this is a very good way to judge my ideal Olympics by the way, anyone I like should win.

    1. Browning
    2. Urmanov
    3. Petrenko
    4. Stojko
    5. Candeloro

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