Liberty competition July 13 to July 17

[dorispulaski]

Junior Ladies C SP

Pl. Name TSS
= TES
+ PCS
+ SS TR PE CH IN Deduction
- StN.
1 McKinzie Daniels
Broadmoor SC
47.63 28.43 19.20 5.00 4.58 4.67 4.92 4.83 0.00 #15
2 Chelsea Christopher
St Moritz ISC 41.70 24.96 16.74 4.25 4.00 4.33 4.17 4.17 0.00 #5
3 Haley Dunne
Washington FSC 36.09 19.01 18.08 4.67 4.25 4.42 4.75 4.50 1.00 #8
4 Nicole Rajic
SC of New York 32.16 17.96 15.20 4.00 3.58 3.75 3.92 3.75 1.00 #13
5 Kirsten Seagers
SC of Wilmingon 31.08 17.54 15.54 4.00 3.67 3.75 4.00 4.00 2.00 #11
6 Ursula Munger
SC of Boston 30.41 15.43 14.98 4.00 3.50 3.83 3.83 3.58 0.00 #4
7 Annie Mateya
Ice World FSC 30.30 16.84 14.46 3.92 3.33 3.58 3.67 3.58 1.00 #12
8 Maria Tsakiris
SC of Sourthern New Jersey 28.72 14.60 15.12 4.08 3.50 3.50 4.08 3.75 1.00 #2
9 Torie Chiappa
Individual Member of USFS 27.23 13.17 14.06 3.50 3.25 3.50 3.75 3.58 0.00 #6
10 Jennifer Kimbrough
Philadelphia SC & HS 27.22 14.70 12.52 3.33 3.00 3.08 3.25 3.00 0.00 #7
11 Brenna Doherty
University of Delaware 27.12 13.00 15.12 4.25 3.33 3.67 3.83 3.83 1.00 #3
12 Nia Gunderson-Smith
Old York Road SC 22.65 10.97 12.68 3.42 3.08 3.17 3.25 2.92 1.00 #9

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Junior Ladies D

Pl. Name TSS
= TES
+ PCS
+ SS TR PE CH IN Deduction
- StN.
1 Courtney Taylor
SC of New York 35.81 18.73 17.08 4.50 3.92 4.25 4.17 4.50 0.00 #10
2 Briley Pizzelanti
Stars FSC of Texas 34.32 18.80 17.52 4.58 4.00 4.42 4.33 4.58 2.00 #7
3 Madeline Koehler
Detroit SC 33.44 15.90 17.54 4.58 4.17 4.42 4.58 4.17 0.00 #6
4 Flora Su
Champlain Valley SC 33.35 16.43 16.92 4.33 4.08 4.25 4.17 4.33 0.00 #3
5 Sloane Scheller
Stars FSC of Texas 28.76 14.30 15.46 3.83 3.67 3.58 4.08 4.17 1.00 #5
6 Laurie Dion
Centre Elite de patinage artistique Boucherville 26.54 12.80 14.74 4.00 3.42 3.75 3.75 3.50 1.00 #8
7 Bethany Bonenfant
Detriot SC 24.21 11.93 14.28 3.75 3.33 3.42 3.67 3.67 2.00 #4

[dorispulaski]

So if you were to combine the scores, the top junior girls in the short program from the different sections would be

1 Angela Wang Salt Lake FSC 49.24 28.30 20.94 5.50 5.25 5.25 5.17 5.00 0.00 #13
2 McKinzie Daniels Broadmoor SC 47.63 28.43 19.20 5.00 4.58 4.67 4.92 4.83 0.00 #15
3 Chelsea Christopher St Moritz ISC 41.70 24.96 16.74 4.25 4.00 4.33 4.17 4.17 0.00 #5
4 Nina Jiang Texas Gulf Coast FSC 40.49 23.17 18.32 4.83 4.33 4.67 4.58 4.50 1.00 #10
5 Lauren Dinh Broadmoor SC 39.01 21.87 18.14 4.75 4.25 4.50 4.50 4.67 1.00 #4
6 Allison Timlen Columbia FSC of Maryland 38.39 20.47 18.92 4.83 4.58 4.75 4.75 4.75 1.00 #5
7 Haley Dunne Washington FSC 36.09 19.01 18.08 4.67 4.25 4.42 4.75 4.50 1.00 #8
8 Courtney Taylor SC of New York 35.81 18.73 17.08 4.50 3.92 4.25 4.17 4.50 0.00 #10
9 Alicia Hsu Nashville FSC 35.59 18.87 16.72 4.33 4.00 4.25 4.25 4.08 0.00 #2
10 Samantha Veloso Washington FSC 34.81 18.07 17.74 4.50 4.17 4.50 4.50 4.50 1.00 #11

[dorispulaski]

PJ Kwong had a blog entry about Canadian pairs at Liberty:

http://apps.pjkwong.com/blog/

[Groshkova]

Senior Pairs Short Report:
http://auntjoycesicecreamstand.blogs...irs-short.html

[Tonichelle]

Senior Men take the ice later today!!!!! GO KEEGAN!

[oleada]

From Sylvia's Twitter account:

Senior Ladies:

Sr Ladies SP results 1-6: A Wagner 54.55, A Zawadzki 50.85, Y Siraj 47.37, M Bulanhagui 44.83, A Kononenko 41.41, C Mozer 40.57

Ashley, nice debut!

Junior Ladies:

Top 4 in Jr L A: Dinh, Jiang, Kimberly, Veloso. Top 4 in Jr L B: Wang, Timlen, Galonski, Gueli. Jr L FS C & D compete later on Friday.

Junior Ladies A:
L Dinh 91.98
H Kimberly 63.19
N Jiang 58.18
Z Orenstein 57.52
I Williams 56.90
S Veloso 56.43
A Hsu 54.77
E Komes 48.00
A Hamui 47.68
A Xu 44.09
S Sun 43.81
F Rahman 43.52
K Wagner 39.27
R Willoughby 34.57

Junior Ladies FS B
A Wang 98.61
T Galonski 65.54
A Timlen 64.96
M Gueli 61.13
S Eisen 60.01
E Eng 53.71
R Hamui 52.03
C Knoop 49.34
L Seitz 49.18

Based on these results and previous summer competitions, I would not assign Nina Jiang to the JGP - she could barely qualify to US Nationals with the scores she's been getting. However, I would definitely give one to Angela Wang, who proved herself here and at Broadmoor.

[silverlake22]

Based on these results and previous summer competitions, I would not assign Nina Jiang to the JGP - she could barely qualify to US Nationals with the scores she's been getting. However, I would definitely give one to Angela Wang, who proved herself here and at Broadmoor.

I think Nina has already been assigned to a JGP event judging from her updated season notes for 2010-2011. One of her goals is to qualify for the JGPF so I take it to mean she has already been given an initial JGP assignment. Further, this is her 1st competition of the season, last season she was putting up SP scores in the 40s and 50s and FS scores in the 80s and 90s which is quite respectable for the JGP. I know she has grown a couple inches but I don't think the USFSA will choose to completely ignore her because of one lousy competition. I mean, Nina beat Yasmin at Gardenia and Yasmin is the junior silver medalist. Kiri had her fair share of meltdowns last season and was still sent to Junior Worlds because she had also had some very good results.

[i love to skate]

According to Sylvia.....Patrick landed his 4T!!!!

[silverlake22]

Also, any word on if Bulanhagui attempted the 3a?

[silverlake22]

Based on these results and previous summer competitions, I would not assign Nina Jiang to the JGP - she could barely qualify to US Nationals with the scores she's been getting. However, I would definitely give one to Angela Wang, who proved herself here and at Broadmoor.

Don't the top 4 junior ladies from each group compete their FS again on Saturday? That is what the website seems to suggest. Nina has qualified, so maybe she will do better then, oftentimes people just try and get through qualifying rounds without giving it their all.

[oleada]

I think Nina has already been assigned to a JGP event judging from her updated season notes for 2010-2011. One of her goals is to qualify for the JGPF so I take it to mean she has already been given an initial JGP assignment. Further, this is her 1st competition of the season, last season she was putting up SP scores in the 40s and 50s and FS scores in the 80s and 90s which is quite respectable for the JGP. I know she has grown a couple inches but I don't think the USFSA will choose to completely ignore her because of one lousy competition. I mean, Nina beat Yasmin at Gardenia and Yasmin is the junior silver medalist. Kiri had her fair share of meltdowns last season and was still sent to Junior Worlds because she had also had some very good results.

Yeah, but Kiri didn't even get an initial assignment. She earned it by doing well over the summer.

Actually, Nina competed at the Bluebonnet Open earlier this summer and scored 104.97 overall. In the SP + LP here, she didn't even crack 100 in the qualifying round; getting only 98.67. She might have done well at the end of last season, but right now there are many girls who are doing much better. (Wang, McKinzie Daniels and Vanessa Lam to name a few) and her scores don't justify sending her to a JGP assignment when other girls are currently doing a lot better. The point difference between Wang & skaters who placed a few spots below her wasn't huge anyway.

I guess I disagree with US Figure Skating in sending a skater who is not in good shape right now based on results from January. I personally would pay more attention to summer monitoring. Nina UR her 3Lo attempts at Bluebonnet, struggled with the 3T, 3F and 2A and didn't try the 3S. If she struggles again in the final round here, I wouldn't send her to the JGP if I were the USFS.

For what it's worth, this is what other ladies who are being considered for a JGP have scored:

149.76 Vanessa Lam (Hidden Valley Open)
148.79 McKinzie Daniels (Broadmoor)
147.85 Angela Wang (Liberty Open)
134.37 Gracie Gold (Broadmoor)
132.38 Angela Wang (Broadmoor)
*Yasmin Siraj, combining her SP from Liberty with her LP from Boston would score 131.81.

Wang, for example, scored almost as much as Nina did overall in her free skate alone. That speaks volumes. It isn't even close right now. The final round is left, but I wouldn't send Jiang if she doesn't do well again.

Anyway, I digress....Keegan!

[feraina]

According to Sylvia.....Patrick landed his 4T!!!!

I know. Isn't it awesome!
She also said he fell on the 3A though. He always said he's more comfortable with the 4T than the 3A. Maybe he will become the next Lambiel... except he'll land a few more 3A's.

[silverlake22]

Yeah, but Kiri didn't even get an initial assignment. She earned it by doing well over the summer.

Actually, Nina competed at the Bluebonnet Open earlier this summer and scored 104.97 overall. In the SP + LP here, she didn't even crack 100 in the qualifying round; getting only 98.67. She might have done well at the end of last season, but right now there are many girls who are doing much better. (Wang, McKinzie Daniels and Vanessa Lam to name a few) and her scores don't justify sending her to a JGP assignment when other girls are currently doing a lot better. The point difference between Wang & skaters who placed a few spots below her wasn't huge anyway.

I guess I disagree with US Figure Skating in sending a skater who is not in good shape right now based on results from January. I personally would pay more attention to summer monitoring. Nina UR her 3Lo attempts at Bluebonnet, struggled with the 3T, 3F and 2A and didn't try the 3S. If she struggles again in the final round here, I wouldn't send her to the JGP if I were the USFS.

For what it's worth, this is what other ladies who are being considered for a JGP have scored:

149.76 Vanessa Lam (Hidden Valley Open)
148.79 McKinzie Daniels (Broadmoor)
147.85 Angela Wang (Liberty Open)
134.37 Gracie Gold (Broadmoor)
132.38 Angela Wang (Broadmoor)
*Yasmin Siraj, combining her SP from Liberty with her LP from Boston would score 131.81.

Wang, for example, scored almost as much as Nina did overall in her free skate alone. That speaks volumes. It isn't even close right now. The final round is left, but I wouldn't send Jiang if she doesn't do well again.

Anyway, I digress....Keegan!

You have a fair point. It previous years the USFSA has relied a lot on nationals results to decide JGP assignments though. Like Lindsay Davis isn't particularly strong in singles but because she won bronze at nationals I would be surprised if she didn't get an initial JGP assignment even though several other girls are stronger technically than she is. Let's wait and see how Nina does in the final round FS. Further, I think the USFSA usually tends to assign girls who competed in junior and senior at nationals to the JGP before assigning girls who competed in novice at nationals. That being said, I really hope Kulgeyko gets an assignment, I love her skating!

One concerning thing about Nina for the future is her height, she only just turned 13 and is 5'3" already. She has long legs too, she might grow to be 5'6' or so and that will make things harder.

[feraina]

One concerning thing about Nina for the future is her height, she only just turned 13 and is 5'3" already. She has long legs too, she might grow to be 5'6' or so and that will make things harder.

Nina didn't just gain height, she filled out into a more feminine body shape, too. She can pass for the same age as Caroline Zhang (just turned 17)! I'm Asian and I finished growing at 13 (I was 5'2 then, I'm 5'3 now; and I weigh the same). It might be good to get all the growth spurt out of the way early, then she can concentrate on improving her skating with her grown-up body. She's so young, it should be easier for her to adjust to her new body and keep improving than it would be for, say, Caroline, at 16/17. I still have high hopes for her.

If she can get used to her new body relatively quickly, like Anna Ocharova last year (she was also 13, totaled <120 at her first JGP, then did very well by the end of the season, even winning JW SP), then she could still do well this year.