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    Short Dance Preview and Virtual Program Nov.5 2:45 am

    Cup of China will have perhaps the most interesting field of competitors of the Grand Prix Season. Faiella and Scali and Pechalat and Bourzat have been very close, first one team ahead and then the other, for the last several years. They have taken very different approaches to competing this year. Pechalat and Bourzat decided to get their programs out as soon as possible, to get as much input as possible, particularly on the short dance. They have won all three competitions, but have decided to scrap their Amelie short dance program and replace it with a Dr. Zhivago (Lara's Theme) short dance. How rapidly they will have been able to be comfortable with the new program is, of course, a question mark.

    Faiella and Scali, on the other hand, will debut their programs at Cup of China. Faiella and Scali train with Natalia Linichuk these days, so although they have not gotten short dance feedback from judges, Linichuk definitely has. Her junior team, Pushkash & Guerreiro has been competing on the Junior Grand Prix, and has won both their short dance competitions.

    Those two teams should be first and second.

    Third place should be between Bobrova and Soloviev who debuted their programs at the Russian test skate, and looked very prepared. Hoffman & Zavozin finished second to Pechalat at one summer competition and won another. This should put them in quite good shape to compete here.









    Isabella Cannuscio and Ian Lorello USA (ISU Ranked 48th)Coach: Karen Ludington, A. Kirsanov, C. Moxley
    Choreographer: Alexander Kirsanov
    SD Piano Man by Billy Joel
    FD West Side Story by Leonard Bernstein
    6th at JGPF last year
    4th in US Juniors last year
    4th at LPIDC in the SD (45.18)
    5th at LPIDC in the FD

    Xueting Guan and Meng Wang CHN (ISU Ranked 47th)

    Coach: Ge Gao, Chao Liu
    Choreographer: Tianyi Zhang
    SD Waltz: Waltz No. 2 by Dmitri Shostakovich
    FD The Sands of Time (from Prince of Persia soundtrack)
    4th at Chinese Nationals in Seniors
    9th at 4CC's

    Xiaoyang Yu and Chen Wang CHN (ISU Ranking 37th)
    Coach: Hongyan Xi
    Choreographer: Natalia Linichuk
    SD Waltz: The Blue Danube by Johann Strauss
    FD Beethoven's Last Night by Transsibirian Orchestra
    Four time Chinese National Champions, including last year
    8th at 4CC's
    18th at Worlds

    Nora Hoffman and Maxim Zavozin HUN (ISU Ranked 22nd)
    Coach: Alexei Gorshkov, Sergei Petukhov
    Choreographer: Elena Garanina
    SD Waltz: Sleeping Beauty by Peter I. Tchaikovski; Waltz: Skaters' Waltz by Strauss
    FD Nagyidai Ciganok (Gypsy Witch) soundtrack by Experidance
    Hungarian National Champions for 2 years
    13th at Olympics
    10th at Worlds
    1st at Nepela
    2nd at Finlandia
    Level 2 and Level 3 on the GW at Finlandia, finishing 2nd with 54.75
    81.77 in the FD at Finlandia
    Level 3 in both segments on the GW at Nepela, finishing 1st with 59.15
    86.26 in the FD at Nepela

    Kharis Ralph and Asher Hill CAN (ISU Ranking 19th)
    Coach: Carol Lane, Juris Razguljaevs
    Choreographer: Carol Lane, Juris Razguliaevs
    SD Ten Minutes Ago by Richard Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein
    FD Summertime by George Gershwin; Senie
    4th in Seniors at Canadian Nationals last year
    6th at 4CCs last year

    Ekaterina Bobrova and Dmitri Soloviev RUS (Ranked 18th by the ISU)
    SD Waltz: Delilah by Tom Jones
    FD Melody of the White Nights by Isaak Schwartz
    2nd at Russian Nationals
    9th at Europeans
    8th at Worlds
    15th at Olympics

    Xintong Huang and Xun Zheng CHN (ISU ranking 17th)
    Coach: Hongyan Xi
    Choreographer: Natalia Linichuk
    SD Waltz: Waltz No. 2 from Jazz Suite No. 2 by Dmitri Shostakovich
    FD Singing in the Rain (from American in Paris)
    2nd Senior Nationals last year
    4th at 4CC's last year
    19th at the Olympics last year

    Madison Hubbell and Kieffer Hubbell USA (Ranked 12th)
    Coach: Anjelika Krylova, Pasquale Camerlengo, E. Swallow
    Choreographer: Juri Tchesnitchenko, Jaroslava Netchaeva
    SD Waltz: The Addams Family (soundtrack); Masochism Tango (from the Addams Family soundtrack)
    FD Ocean Club by Yello; Jungle Bill by Yello; Moments in Love by Art of Noise; Jungle Bill by Yello
    6th at Senior Nationals
    3rd at 4CC's
    4th at Finlandia
    4th in the SD with 50.89, with level 4 in both segments of the GW
    75.48 in the FD

    Federica Faiella and Massimo Scali ITA (Ranked ISU 7th)
    Coach: Natalia Linichuk, Paola Mezzadri, G. Karpanosov
    Choreographer: Corrado Giordani, Barbara Melica, Ludmila Vlasova SD My Fair Lady soundtrack: On the street where you live (instrumental); I could have danced all night; The rain in spain
    FD Manolete From "Flamenco" by Pepe Romero: Que se ven desde el conquero; De mi vera te fuistes
    7 time Italian National Champions, including last year
    3rd at Worlds
    2nd at Europeans
    5th at Olympics

    Nathalie Pechalat and Fabian Bourzat FRN (Ranked 2nd by the ISU)
    Coach: Alexander Zhulin, Oleg Volkov, Maxim Staviski
    SD Lara's Theme from the Dr. Zhivago soundtrack, replacing their former SD La Valse d'Amelie Poulain" (could be another version though) by Yann Tiersen & Fuga y Misterio by Astor Piazzolla
    FD City Lights - Medley - London Symphonic Orchestra
    Choreographer:
    7th at Olympics
    4th at Worlds
    1st at Finlandia
    1st at Nebelhorn
    3rd GPF last year
    56.39 in the SD at Nebelhorn (3rd) due to geting Level 1 and Level 4 on the GW segments, and level 1 on the midline step
    90.79 in the FD at Nebelhorn (1st)
    At Finlandia SD, level 2 & Level 3 on the GW, first overall with 59.96
    91.80 in the FD
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    Ice Dance - short dance

    Warm-Up Group 1
    1 Isabella CANNUSCIO / Ian LORELLO (USA)
    2 Xueting GUAN / Meng WANG (CHN)
    3 Xiaoyang YU / Chen WANG (CHN)
    4 Nora HOFFMANN / Maxim ZAVOZIN (HUN)
    5 Kharis RALPH / Asher HILL (CAN)

    Warm-Up Group 2
    6 Ekaterina BOBROVA / Dmitri SOLOVIEV (RUS)
    7 Xintong HUANG / Xun ZHENG (CHN)
    8 Madison HUBBELL / Keiffer HUBBELL (USA)
    9 Federica FAIELLA / Massimo SCALI (ITA)
    10 Nathalie PECHALAT / Fabian BOURZAT (FRA)

    http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpchn2010/SEG007.HTM

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    Pechalat and Bourzat in a breeze for the win with Bobrova/Soloviev as standouts. Failella/Scali have reputation now. Podium will be interesting.

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    Try this http://www.eurosmi.ru/tv/132/ (click on HTB+ Спорт онлайн), it should be on but I'm in class and can't check.

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    Short Dance:
    1 Nathalie PECHALAT / Fabian BOURZAT (FRA) 64.12
    2 Federica FAIELLA / Massimo SCALI (ITA) 57.21
    3 Ekaterina BOBROVA / Dmitri SOLOVIEV (RUS) 55.85
    4 Nora HOFFMANN / Maxim ZAVOZIN (HUN) 52.69
    5 Xintong HUANG / Xun ZHENG (CHN) 49.70
    6 Kharis RALPH / Asher HILL (CAN) 48.10
    7 Xiaoyang YU / Chen WANG (CHN) 45.33
    8 Madison HUBBELL / Keiffer HUBBELL (USA) 44.47
    9 Xueting GUAN / Meng WANG (CHN) 40.19
    10 Isabella CANNUSCIO / Ian LORELLO (USA) 38.34

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    I watched it on icenetwork, but I had a ton of feed troubles. I'll have to watch it over later and hope the quality will be better

    At first I couldn't get on at all. I missed Cannuscio & Lorello and part of Guan/Wang
    38.34 (C&L)
    First few couples you couldn't see the scores, they were down off the bottom of the page

    Guan and Wang
    Waltz No. 2 by Dmitri Shostakovich

    even I saw at least one flat edge in the midline step
    plus it was slow
    40.19


    Yu & Wang
    Blue Danube
    Same costumes as SC
    His still looks like a cowboy shirt with a cummerbund

    GW to start
    the tinkly version in GW2 is suspect
    twizzles. They work through them, but his especially are not smooth
    tangoing
    Is there a problem with this music feed?
    closer on midline than last couple
    fake violence ending
    feed freezes
    45.33

    Hoffman & Zavozin
    hoffman in a cutaway
    max looks trimmer
    tails
    norah in a very low cut spaghetti strap number in aqua
    with elaborate beading on the bodice
    midline better speed & flow
    gw to skater's waltz
    gw2
    gw1 (her thigh was parallel in STD)
    crossing twizzles very cool with speed
    rotational lift to finish
    they still are a bit sloppy
    52.69
    1st

    Ralph and Hill
    Ten Minutes Ago; This is a very schmaltzy song
    The feed is suddenly weird-stretched 20% wide and the screen distorted. It surely makes their lean look greater.
    She is in way too much fabric on the skirt lilac green pin
    gold lame bra on top
    gold specked elbow gloves sort of
    clip in hair
    he has dark blue pants puffy sleeve shirt loud lavender vest
    with a lot of gold trim (this seems way too much for a Richard Rodgers schmaltz song)
    good edges
    screen distortion
    twizzles not good limited forward motion/slow
    jump into midline
    little pair spin to end
    48.70 into 2nd

    Next warmup group



    Bobrova & Soloviev
    Bobrova black bodice with lots of sparklies, black elbow gloves, very pink skirt
    pink hair pieces with feathers & pink pipecleaners
    lots of gold neck chains
    with lots of ruffles
    he's got white not well fitted white tie shirt, black jacket pants
    Delilah
    twizzles
    he goofs up in the twizzles
    speed into the midline step (I like
    this step)
    gw1
    gw2
    gw looked pretty good
    lift he throws her into it,not smooth
    full view of her very skimpy black underpants (costume deduction?)
    55.85 into 1st
    -1 deduction (maybe the costume, maybe the length of lift that exposed the costume)

    Huang & Zheng
    His shirt appears to be torn up after a mugging
    and pulled out of his pants and uneven
    purple vest all awry
    black tie flopping hanging
    she's in white pale purple edging, shaded into the white
    pretty neckline little pale purple flower on one shoulder
    Waltz No. 2 by Dmitri Shostakovich
    3 sets of twizzles of not good quality
    midline very slow
    I liked the other Chinese couple better
    gw slow
    not down enough in the std
    little rotational lift transition
    fancier lift to finish
    Audience, home town or not, not going wild
    49.7


    Hubbells all in black
    Madison's v neckline slit to the navel long sleeves black sequeins
    addams family
    blond morticia with french braid in the back?
    waltz jump
    haircutter rotational lift
    screen freeze bad
    gw1
    looking correct but a little slow
    cartwheel lift him
    midline Kieffer trips falls
    both fall complete disruption of program
    jump into twizzles
    lots of flair on the ending
    Krylova giving hugs
    44.47 -3 deduction 6th (ouch)

    Faiella and Scali
    Faiella in white, v. ugly
    My fair lady
    huge black& white bow (why?) like a christmas package
    almost turtle neck
    very fancy whie fabric
    big white ruffles at wrists
    black & white bow with pipecleaners in pulled back hair
    Dress is a take on the one from the movie
    He got his foot tangled up in her skirt lucky to get out of it
    more really wide black andwhite ribbon around most of the waist
    Massimo in a business suit white shirt tie
    jump into twizzles slightly out of sync no big deal
    gw1
    layback probably won't count
    timing a little off could be feed synchng
    O faces
    Rain in Spain
    midline seems a little slow
    57.21
    Into 1st

    Pechalat and Bourzat
    Pechalat all in red with a black edge to the scoop neckline
    and black net elbow gloves with no mitts (her Amelie costume)
    Bourzat with red tie grey pants, black jacket white shirt
    Lara's Theme
    twizzles immediately
    freeze
    gw
    lunge into rotational lift to end
    What my computer would show me, it was pretty good
    64.12
    Way into 1st
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    1 Nathalie PECHALAT / Fabian BOURZAT FRA 64.12 32.71 31.41 7.82 7.61 7.86 8.04 7.89 0.00 #10
    2 Federica FAIELLA / Massimo SCALI ITA 57.21 26.28 30.93 7.71 7.50 7.54 7.93 7.89 0.00 #9
    3 Ekaterina BOBROVA / Dmitri SOLOVIEV RUS 55.85 27.93 28.92 7.25 7.00 7.29 7.39 7.21 1.00 #6
    4 Nora HOFFMANN / Maxim ZAVOZIN HUN 52.69 26.28 26.41 6.61 6.32 6.68 6.68 6.68 0.00 #4
    5 Xintong HUANG / Xun ZHENG CHN 49.70 25.08 24.62 6.39 5.89 6.11 6.25 6.11 0.00 #7
    6 Kharis RALPH / Asher HILL CAN 48.10 25.01 23.09 5.75 5.46 5.82 5.93 5.86 0.00 #5
    7 Xiaoyang YU / Chen WANG CHN 45.33 23.99 21.34 5.36 5.11 5.39 5.43 5.36 0.00 #3
    8 Madison HUBBELL / Keiffer HUBBELL USA 44.47 23.29 24.18 6.11 5.96 5.79 6.25 6.07 3.00 #8
    9 Xueting GUAN / Meng WANG CHN 40.19 21.36 18.83 4.79 4.57 4.75 4.79 4.64 0.00 #2
    10 Isabella CANNUSCIO / Ian LORELLO USA 38.34 19.05 19.29 4.89 4.64 4.86 4.93 4.79 0.00 #1

    F&S got slammed on the tech score. Probably the Golden, but also the problems with stepping on the skirt (which I saw on replay, but missed during a feed freeze)
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    Think both P/B and F/S have real winners in their programs, but the latter were too messy. Her skirt got caught in his blade, the twizzles were out of synch and overall they were rough

    P/B were pretty clean, seemed quite fast. New program is a work in progress, but done very well. I particularly liked the spread eagles out of the first set of twizzles. Of course, it helps that they are stunning and their costumes were very nice. But I'm biased, they are my favorite team.


    BobSolvs had twizzle errors, but their compulstory was strong.

    Boy Hubbell fell in the step sequence, and she tripped over him, and they missed about 1/2 - 1/3 of their step sequence, and their twizzles, which came after, were also unclean. Up until then they were clean, but slow. I wish they would change the opening of their program, as it is a bit too close for comfort for a sibling team.

    Ralph/Hill desperately need costuming and packaging help, but were solid.
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    That's such a huge lead for dance!

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    The lead is almost entirely from tech points. F&S got hit several places-one of the step sequences low, I suspect, since its hard to get your edges correct with your skate caught in a skirt. Also the GW1 was no better than lev3, I think, and P&B have been getting lev4. I got feed errors in GW2 but the layback was not to spec either, I think (anyway 6 points lost in tech)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    The lead is almost entirely from tech points. F&S got hit several places-one of the step sequences low, I suspect, since its hard to get your edges correct with your skate caught in a skirt. Also the GW1 was no better than lev3, I think, and P&B have been getting lev4. I got feed errors in GW2 but the layback was not to spec either, I think (anyway 6 points lost in tech)
    Good for P/B that started the season early and focused. That is why they deserve to be in such lead. They have not just understood what they got to do to get the levels on the GW but figured out that "Amelie" and the tango is not quite the best vehicle to maximize their chances.
    I saw Doris you knew they will change the SD, when this decision was posted anywhere, because I could not find a link?

    F/S dance will get better, good concept but they need mileage, It was rough.
    I like B/S SD a lot, that will be a winner, but please skate the damn thing cleanly. They are always messing up an element.
    Poor Hubbell's. That was a disaster.
    Solid debut for Ralph and Hill.
    Our feed was very good in Canada, by the way.

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    There is an interview on IN of P&B. It made the disclosure.

    If your feed was good, then perhaps we will get youtubes of these some time!

    Did you get the distorted version of R&H? Or was it right size?

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