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Who is your favorite coach?

Who is your favorite coach

  • Frank Caroll

    Votes: 18 15.7%
  • Igor Shpilband and Marina Zoueva

    Votes: 14 12.2%
  • Rafael Arutunian

    Votes: 6 5.2%
  • Tatiana Tarasova

    Votes: 17 14.8%
  • Nikolai Morozov

    Votes: 4 3.5%
  • John Nicks

    Votes: 7 6.1%
  • Alexei Mishin

    Votes: 18 15.7%
  • Don Laws

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • Yao Bin

    Votes: 9 7.8%
  • Someone else

    Votes: 21 18.3%

  • Total voters
    115

janetfan

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Frank Carroll is my favorite coach. He was a student of Mirabel Vincent-Owen and has passed on her skating philosphy to many skaters over the years. He "created" Michelle and is now Mirai's coach. I expect great things from Mirai and think she is fortunate to have Frank as her coach.
 

Layfan

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Nov 5, 2009
I second Janetfan. He certainly seem to be a good at helping skaters find their style and consistency, although he's no magician (Bebe Liang.) People say he is known for making his skaters do full run throughs all the time. Is this true? I'm always confused by this. Why WOULDN'T a skater do a full run through?

Seems like some notable names are missing from this list. Galina. Brian Orser. Richard Callaghan. The Scotvolds. (or are they retired?)
 

Phoenix347

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Oct 24, 2009
I second Janetfan. He certainly seem to be a good at helping skaters find their style and consistency, although he's no magician (Bebe Liang.) People say he is known for making his skaters do full run throughs all the time. Is this true? I'm always confused by this. Why WOULDN'T a skater do a full run through?

Seems like some notable names are missing from this list. Galina. Brian Orser. Richard Callaghan. The Scotvolds. (or are they retired?)

It's too bad that the you can only list maximum of 10 choices in the poll. I wanted to add more folks like Orser, Tom Zakrajsek and Galina but I tried to put up a mix of long time coaches and recently popular coaches. I wish poll were allowed to have more than 10 choices. :eek:hwell:
 
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prettykeys

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Oct 19, 2009
One of those polls I can't choose a single option for...so I won't vote. ;)

I really like Frank Carroll, Alexei Mishin, and Tatiana Tarasova. And of course, Brian Orser.
 

snowflake

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Nov 10, 2008
Yes, there are so many great coaches out there, known and unknown. Hard to choose one favorite. And I am sure it's individual which coach suits a certain skater. Some skaters change often and some stay true to one their whole career. Lucky the ones who find the right coach in early days.

Anyway, my vote goes to John Nicks. I am always happy to see him in the K&C. Especiallly when he sits beside Sasha Cohen. He seems so friendly and nice.

John Nicks moved from Great Britain to California to help rebuild US skating, following the plane crash in 1961, when US lost the entire team and many top coaches. Since then I think he has been coaching mostly US skaters. I know I saw Mr Nicks in K&C at last worlds, but I don't remember who his pupil was.
 

janetfan

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Well, there's always the someone else option:)

Speaking of the someone else option - what about Carlo Fassi, who coached Olympic champions Peggy Fleming, Dorothy Hamill, John Curry and Robin Cousins. He also coached World champion Jill Trenary.

Fassi also worked for a time with Scott Hamilton, Paul Wylie and also coached Julie Lynn Holmes and Emi Watanabe, the first Japanese skater to ever win a medal at Worlds.

Like John Nicks, he came to America after the '61 air tragedy to help rebuild US Skating.

If resumes count, Fassi's is second to none.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcH8engIO_E


ETA: I am sure I left out some very good skaters Carlo coached.
Here is one - Caryn Kadavy :love: - in a medal winning LP from '87 Worlds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD5Xsuk440k
 
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Layfan

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Speaking of the someone else option - what about Carlo Fassi, who coached Olympic champions Peggy Fleming, Dorothy Hamill, John Curry and Robin Cousins. He also coached World champion Jill Trenary.

Fassi also worked for a time with Scott Hamilton, Paul Wylie and also coached Julie Lynn Holmes and Emi Watanabe, the first Japanese skater to ever win a medal at Worlds.

Like John Nicks, he came to America after the '61 air tragedy to help rebuild US Skating.

If resumes count, Fassi's is second to none.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcH8engIO_E


ETA: I am sure I left out some very good skaters Carlo coached.
Here is one - Caryn Kadavy :love: - in a medal winning LP from '87 Worlds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD5Xsuk440k

Wow, thanks Janetfan. I love discovering new programs and new skaters from the past. I didn't really know about Caryn Kadavy. Lovely. (and kudos for wearing a tasteful costume in the 80s :) I guess she was one of those with potential to win a world or olympic gold but didn't get there. But very polished. I would have enjoyed watching her very much.

Carlo Fassi was obviously a legendary coach. Didn't he coach Nicole Bobek right before he died? I thought the thread was more for current coaches, although I suppose John Nicks is borderline. Is he basically retired?
 

Tonichelle

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looks like I'm the first to give Don Laws some love. Granted he doesn't have the huge name stable of Frank Carrol, nor does he have the huge number of skaters like some of the others, but he seems to know how ot pick them all the same. Scott Hamilton was one of the legendary Carlso Fossi's "flunkies" and ended up becoming the dominant male skater for four years under Laws careful eye. Too bad Chan couldn't understand how to respect what he had to offer.
 

janetfan

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Fasso died during worlds 1997 in Lausanne. Bobek broke down and after her LP she fell down in tears on the ice. She finished 13th.

Thanks for the clip snowflake.
From Wiki, here is a list of Nicole's coaches: "Debbie Stoery, Kathy Casey, Hoon Kim, Richard Callaghan, Barbara Roles, Frank Carroll, Robin Cousins, and Mary and Evy Scotvold. She was coached by Callaghan during her period of greatest success in 1995 and by Fassi until his death from a heart attack at the 1997 World championships."
 
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Layfan

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Fasso died during worlds 1997 in Lausanne. Bobek broke down and after her LP she fell down in tears on the ice. She finished 13th.

My, what a beautiful program! Talk about making it look effortless. Nicole has got to be the most talented headcase in the history of ladies skating. Here is a better version of that program:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0fbICdppmo&feature=related

I think you can see the Carlo Fassi influence in her polish and it's a bit more delicate that she sometimes was.
 

#1Kerryfan

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I always liked Robin Wagner, even though she's been out of the picture for a while. She seems so sweet and devoted and both Sarah and Sasha talked about how she was a friend and a second mother to them.
 

Scout

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Sep 5, 2009
Igor & Marina - the improvement their skaters show year over year is amazing.

Though I have a lot of respect for many of those coaches.
 

blue_idealist

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Feb 25, 2006
Shpilband and Zoueva. They must be doing something right to produce all those top dance teams! It seems like a new team goes to them and BAM, they've shot up the world standings.
 

lcd

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Mar 11, 2007
Zoueva and Shpilband have produced results which have changed the profile of the sport in North America, but my true favorite coach is John Nicks. Such a cracker.
 

Kwanford Wife

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Dec 29, 2004
I've always been a fan of Rafael Arutunian. I like that its all about the skaters and their technique with him. These coaches with their big personalities and attitudes drive me insane - the guy out of Colorado is a prime example if Ice Diaries was a true example of his style. (SN: isn't he Rachael's coach?) This is also true of Frank, Tat and Morozov. I know coaches devote a lot of time, expertise, and whatnot to their skaters and that as a coach its their job to push. However - they're still the Help and are receiving a salary for services rendered. Get over yourselves, please.
 

Tonichelle

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I've always been a fan of Rafael Arutunian. I like that its all about the skaters and their technique with him. These coaches with their big personalities and attitudes drive me insane - the guy out of Colorado is a prime example if Ice Diaries was a true example of his style. (SN: isn't he Rachael's coach?) This is also true of Frank, Tat and Morozov. I know coaches devote a lot of time, expertise, and whatnot to their skaters and that as a coach its their job to push. However - they're still the Help and are receiving a salary for services rendered. Get over yourselves, please.

no one beats Robin Wagner in that department! :laugh: She drove me NUTS during the 02 games.


still no one but me behind Mr. Laws? bummer
 
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