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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernDancers View Post
    , It's really quite exciting to have such great depth in ice dance in Canada!
    Yes, I am very excited about all of them too, but a little crushed at the disappearance of Harvey/Gagnon.

    As stated, I think the order was correct, but was there really 20 points between 6th and 7th? I'm not convinced.
    Well, let's see. I've copied all this stuff from the protocols:

    Nebelhorn FD

    Base 37.00
    TES 39.86
    PCS 35.75
    Overall 74.61

    CULI4
    STW4
    CIST2
    ROLI4
    COSP4
    SlLi4
    DiSt3
    ROLi2

    Skate Canada FD
    base 34.50
    total 67.57
    TES 36.08
    PCS 31.49

    culi4
    stw4
    cist2
    roli4
    cosp4
    dist2
    roli1


    So in the FD, they lost 2.5 points in base value of TES for nearly 4 points overall in TES.
    In PCS, 4.25 point loss: this is the part that might be questionable. However, when you are not skating your elements at your best in dance, it is often so that your PCS are not your best either. This is a bit of an empty argument, because it does not appear to apply to Patrick Chan's grades, but IMO it's how it should go, and usually how it does go in dance (one reason it is my favorite discipline these days).

    So overall, they have lost about 8.5 points on the FD vs. Nebelhorn.

    On the SD:

    Here the differences are more stark:
    At Nebelhorn SD
    Base 26.0
    TES 26.93
    PCS 22.38
    total 49.31

    NTmist2
    stw3
    GW2SE2
    GW1SE4
    RoLi4

    Skate Canada SD
    base 21
    TES 20.29 (some negative GOE's here)
    PCS 19.78
    total 40.07

    ntmist1
    stw3
    gw2se2
    gw1se1
    roli4

    Here they lost about 9.3 points. But it's important to note that their GW was significantly worse.
    5 of the points lost were in base value alone.

    Again, they lost some in PCS too, but they made significantly more technical errors-so this may well be correct.

    I didn't see their Nebelhorn programs, but the protocols are fairly consistent with the scores-more problems in both programs at Skate Canada.

    It looks like they were not their best at Skate Canada and were at Nebelhorn.
    Last edited by dorispulaski; 11-01-2010 at 04:16 PM.

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