Sure, you can ***** about the rules and the GOE and whatever....but no way it's Chan's fault with the mark. And it's the double standard here as well. People only see his bad skate and the high score...and usually overlooked the other quality he has. "I don't care how good he is, he fell" All people only focus on is "he fell". Duh, blame the rule and the GOE and other stuff.
What I meant was let's see if he was scored according to the system and system failed us, or he just got crazy unfair scores on the other non-jumping elements.
Don't you start in on the silliness too Toni. I meant if we are both in the same location, obviously.
he scoring system might be flawed, but I doubt if the judges or the skater himself were at fault with respect to the "over-score".
I too highly doubt if Patrick is at fault with respect to the overscoring, but I certainly think that the judges are at fault to some extent, even if the scoring system is flawed. The judges had no problem (rightfully, and thankfully) sticking Mao Asada down into 8th place when she bombed at NHK, you would think that would be possible here...
I too highly doubt if Patrick is at fault with respect to the overscoring, but I certainly think that the judges are at fault to some extent, even if the scoring system is flawed. The judges had no problem (rightfully, and thankfully) sticking Mao Asada down into 8th place when she bombed at NHK, you would think that would be possible here...
I really respect him for trying the quad, especially after being so blase last year about how he didn't need it.
The judges had no problem (rightfully, and thankfully) sticking Mao Asada down into 8th place when she bombed at NHK, you would think that would be possible here...
But if people think that once a skater make a few mistakes, might as well pack your bag and go home, it's silly.
and I don't think anyone blames Chan for the score.. just the poor skate.
It's not just "a few mistakes", as in maybe he double-footed a jump and had a turnout on another jump and was shaky on a spin. He made 3 major errors. Historically, doing that in the Short Program DOES mean you might as well pack your bag and go home (in terms of realistically having a chance at a medal).
I have to see the protocols but i have a feeling Chan did not get -3 GOE for his falls.
I think the difference here is that Chan rotated the jumps and somehow maintained a decent technicial score under the current system, which Mao failed to do.
I would think that once someone falls 3 times. He/she would be hit hard in the skating skills because if you fall that much doesn't that mean that there was something wrong with your skating skills that day? Don't the falls also distracted from interpretation and choreo so wouldn't those scores be lower that day too? Judges were probably being nice because as someone already said the judges didn't have a problem burying Mao even when she skated at home.