10-29-2010, 08:12 PM
"Hold an edge and look sexy!"
Any other skater wouldn't, but the always grossly over-scored Patrick Chan would . . . you can guarantee that!
Originally Posted by seniorita
10-29-2010, 08:14 PM
That's a good question that I hadn't thought of - so maybe with rotating the jumps and completing the required step sequence, he did get quite a few tech points. I still don't like that idea that one can.
Originally Posted by skatinginbc
That said, I agree with wallylutz (just can't figure out how to insert mulitple quotes right ow) that had this been worlds, he would be much lower in the ranks. also, seniorita, i was quite taken with his one footed foot work turning in both directions and keeping the speed up for what seemed most of the length of the rink - that, to me, is impressive
10-29-2010, 08:15 PM
leave no stone unturned
museksk8r, lol, thats why I edited it!
I know his footwork was impressive thats why i mentioned it, but it looks like he doesnt need a single jump standing straight to score around 60+, if you take off his triple combo. This looks strange.
Last edited by seniorita; 10-29-2010 at 08:20 PM.
10-29-2010, 08:22 PM
On cloud nine and refusing to come down!
People need to look at the rulebook; the ISU has definite criteria on what falls under the various categories for PCS. I'm not sure whether skating skills involves whether jumps are successfully landed, that should be under the TES and maybe PE if the falls distract from the programme.
Originally Posted by FTnoona
I think it's tempting to think that just because a skater falls, he/she doesn't deserve a good score because that is what would have happened under 6.0. The new system doesn't quite work that way! (Although I tend to feel that PCS are being abused just like the Artistic Impression mark was but that's another story)
10-29-2010, 08:25 PM
Sorry, your description is vague and lacking details. I see what you are saying but your justication is somewhat subjective. I see a definite improvement in how he projects to the audience, which was a weakness of his and that is a significant change, impacting both IN and CH positively. SS and TR are impeccable as usual, though PE deinitely should take a major hit by at least 1.00 point (out of 10) IMO. Is 39 PCS overstated? Historically, his PCS went as high as low 40s. With noticeable improvement in IN and CH but obvious issues in PE, the number itself doesn't mean much. I am unable to find some obvious support for claim re: overscoring that already led to several accusations here including: 1) Blaming the judges of being dirty and 2) Skate Canada of playing politics and 3) questioning why Chen didn't protest the scores implying thereore he is somehow an accomplice. If this is not nasty b/c this is essentially shots taken at the reputation of people / organization concerned (aka. libel), I don't know what this is then.
Originally Posted by Tonichelle
RE: TES, the protocol will speak for itself and this is generally considered quite objective these days.
Last edited by wallylutz; 10-29-2010 at 08:28 PM.
10-29-2010, 08:29 PM
And I am very happy with it. It is why the sport is called figure skating, not figure jumping. One can maintain a decent standing based on his skating skills alone, but in order to outscore everyone, he has to own the big ticket items (i.e, jumps) as well. I like it this way. I really don't have problems with it.
Originally Posted by seniorita
10-29-2010, 08:34 PM