While there's no "official", quantified deduction for falls in PCS, I think that the falls can impact those areas that are judged in PCS, and therefore lower the overall score.
For example, the skater intends to do some transitions in/out of the jump. If the skater falls, obviously the transitions out of the jump can't be executed and TR score should reflect that.
If the jumps/steps/spins/etc., are choreographed to highlight the mood of the music, it should bump up the IN score. Obviously if there's a fall, it disrupts the union between the skater and the music.
PE can be affected if the fall takes the wind out of the skater and affects his performance after the fall(s).
And so on and so forth.
I'm very curious to see the protocol anyway.
Last edited by lisou; 10-30-2010 at 07:03 AM.
Chan's score is ridiculous. There's really no way around it. And falls are actually penalized less under the new rules? :sheesh: What's the use of skating clean programs now when skaters like Chan can just plan "complex" choreography and layouts without actually executing them.
It's never been clear to me just what Skating Skills are. I first thought they were about the various turns a skater makes on ice but was corrected that there are more to SS. However, the argument that PC scores have nothing to do with Falls, I would question because there is a bullet in the PC definitions that talks about Interpretation. A Fall does indeed affect Interpretation, musically and emotionally. Why would it not?
Unfortunaely Patrick had 3 Falls. That was unfortunate, but it happens to the best of skaters. Patrick's skating is outstanding when it comes to Flow in a routine. (Oda too.) The other skaters have more than adequate Flow.
Well, at least we show consistency. The women were relatively clean, but one man had such an awful skate and unearned scores that the men have 20 pages of posts vs 9 for the ladies. Such is the power of the Chan.
Last edited by elif; 10-30-2010 at 07:51 AM.
Originally Posted by Ginask8s
I realize he is in Canada and will get some home advantage, but I keep thinking of Mao who bombed and got no love from the homies. Its quite embarassing and discouraging for the skaters who are coming up and or skating clean.
I think Mao got high PCS even if she fell and poped most of jumps.
If we can see how much point should be cost approximately per fall or pop in PCS.
I think we will be less compused.
Last edited by ever; 10-30-2010 at 08:09 AM.
So isn't this like admitting you are being scored based on reputation?Despite the falls, the judges kept Chan in the hunt for a medal with high program component scores, ranging up to 9.25 for skating skills.
"That shows the importance of [good] practices," he said. "The judges know I can do the program. It shows they want me to do well. That's good to know; it definitely cheered me up a little bit."
Oh, Chan... ALL THE SKATERS can do their programs in practice. I hope he's not TOO happy that the judges are scoring him because he's "special" even though he wasn't all that special last night.
I think it just came down to the quad - it was his first time (if I'm not mistaken) trying it in competition. No surprise that he fell. But it seems to have gotten to him too much. We'll see tonight. Good luck to him.