Wallylutz, you snipped out the part where I was clearly reading from an ISU document, so I wasn't just pulling that out of thin air. I was unsure I was reading it correctly, however. I'm a little disappointed you recontextualized my words like that, to be honest.
As for time-wasting conspiracy theories, I'm curently killing time waiting for the ladies LP to start, so I'm fine with time wasting.
That said, can you find a non-Canadian skater that has NOT had straight -3 for an element with a fall, particularly a jump?
I am pretty sure it was last year that they changed the rule on the -3 fall deduction. Prior to the 2009-2010 season it was automatic, now it is not.
But to award positive GOE to Chan's scratchy jumps while awarding no GOE for Oda's scratchy jumps? It looks like the judges were more lenient on some skaters than others.
(1) Is it possible that the +GOEs Chan received for some of his scratchy landings was due to his fast speed and footwork leading into those jumps whereas Oda's scratchy 4T did not receive a positive GOE was due his lack of footwork leading to it?
Last edited by skatinginbc; 10-30-2010 at 06:13 PM.
Mr :sheesh:Inman doesnt send emails anymore?
A dissection of why Chan's TES were too high in the LP:
*+2 across the board from the judges for his Quad, with one judge even giving him a +3. This is ridiculous. He doesn't get enough height in his Quad to justify that kind of mark. This should have been a +1.
*A lot of +2's on his Flying Sit Spin. Undeserved. Look at the lazy bent-leg position he has when trying to do the catch-foot in order to gain a level. Not great.
*A lot of +1's here and there for jumps with small wobbles on the landings. Considering Chan's jumps aren't that big, these are undeserved.
*+3 GOE on his second footwork sequence. +3 GOE means one of the best technical elements you've ever seen. Should be given out rarely. Chan's sequence was not that good. He didn't have some of the most evocative body movement ever a la Yagudin or Lambiel and he didn't have blindingly fast turns or speed across the ice.
*A lot of +2's and even a +3 for his Combination Spin. This is wrong. The transitions between positions in his combination spin are VERY easy. He doesn't do much to gain the Level 4 on the spin and the overall quality of his positions are only average. Speed is good but not amazing. Should have received +1 at the very most.
I have to say i am not outraged at the scoring of the LP like I was for the short. Of the top contenders Patrick showed the most energy and commitment.
I am not sure exactly what was so amazing about Patrick's quad that it needed +2 and +3 GOEs on top of the base value for a properly executed element, but oh well.
Hi!Originally Posted by burntbread
Go Bereswille and Young, and good luck Amanda Best!
Go Sheikh and VanCleave!