I don't think any of them would have held up at NHK. They were all off their best including Chan. The Quad was not the definitive point for me because several skaters at SC had quads and others did the air rotations. btw, I would say Falling is worse than two-foot landing.How can anyone tell how a skater would land after a fall? If you know something about physics, to land too much on the toe pick will cause an abrupt stop, if not a stumble or turn out. to land too much on the heel of the boot will force a skater to fall backwards. How can anyone imagine any kind landing - faulty or good if the skater Falls?
By definition, there are 3 parts to a jump element: The Take-Off (gives the jump a name. I can't imagine what the name of a jump is with a Wrong Edge Takeoff.) The Second Part is the Air Rotations (gives the amounts of completed circles made in the air.) The Third Part is the Landing (gives the flowout importance.)
It's obvious that a Fall on any part of a jump element is drastically WRONG. It doesn't mean a contestant can't do a proper jump; it means the contestant was not perfect on that partciular day or night.
It is not the rotating that is the sport; it is the landing cleanly after the rotation, on a thin piece of metal on the ice, preferably landing with beautiful outflow, thus making what is very difficult look easy. This is an ice sport, not an air sport. The difficulty of landing well is the part that matters most: the contact with the ice itself. The thrill of seeing a skater rotating so much in the air, but still landing in a balanced manner, is one of the things that used to bring in a TV audience. How can an audience be thrilled by a splat? Of course interest in the sport has diminished among non-skating viewers.
In pole vaulting or high jumping, in the summer Olympics, knocking down the bar is not rewarded. It is clearing the bar that is rewarded. This is the nature of sport. Almost doesn't count.
There is nothing "outrageous" about different interpretation within the rules. Whether it's Chan's 4 toe getting +2 or Oda's hand down on 4 toe getting 0 GOE. What I have an issue with is certain people who claim to have somekind of absolute authority and things they disagree with automatically = outrageous. I don't know what is more ridiculous here...
This whole controversy could be eliminated by simply giving zero points for a jump on which the skater falls. In soccer, for instance, you do not get any points for "attempts on goal." The ball has to go into the net.
As many have said, Chan was over marked, more so in the SP, but in the LP as well. As a long time skating fan I worry about bringing in casual fans to boost ratings and get more events on TV (not just Olympics, Worlds, and Nationals). this simply will not happen if skaters who can barely land jumps without looking shaky (hello Patrick) get much higher scores than those who do. Of course we cannot expect casual fans to appreciate many nuances of the sport but when someone falls on their *** 3x and still gets the highest (PCS) scores, I think it turns them off (not to mention many who do appreciate nuances).
To me, a fall is in a different category than just, "oops, I did it again." The cardinal rule of ice skating is "keep the shiny side down." Stay on your feet, then we can take it from there.
Plus, in so far as skating is also a spectator sport, falls just kill a program in a way that other kinds of errors do not.
(Except, of course, Alissa Czisny's fall at the end of her amazing LP. I can overlook that. )
Joesitz, a fall is definitely worse than a step out, hand down, or two foot, which is why the GoE is different! That's fair enough IMO. I'm thinking about the way you broke down a jump; I would argue that all three aspects deserve to be considered, not just the landing.
I agree that skating is not like being a doctor; any doctor who puts in effort will be reasonably competent (and to begin with, the admissions process is sufficiently stringent to ensure this). Not every skater who puts in the same amount of effort will necessarily be able to land a quad or do a spin very well. This boils down not just to sheer hard work, but also talent. You could say the same for pursuits like dance and music. Wannabe professional musicians devote so many hours to practice. Do they end up with the same level of technical ability? No.
But -- in the spirit of scientific analysis, not to mention irrelevant nerdy statistics -- should falls negatively affect program component scores? Here are the unfactored PCS in the SPs and LPs. Pretty consistent in this competition, I would say.
Chan: SP (3 falls) 39.48, LP (1 fall) 42.07
Oda SP 38.00, LP 37.14
Rippon SP 36.43, LP 37.58
Fernandez SP 32.42, LP 34.50 (this was deserved – his LP was better)
Reynolds 34.06, LP 34.75
Preaubert SP 34.14, LP 34.75
So it looks like they penalized Patrick by about 1.295 points per fall, in PCSs.