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    Main battles in skating this year

    What do you think will be the main battles for medals or titles in skating this year. Here are mine:

    Pairs:

    Pang & Tong vs Savchenko & Szolkowy for Pairs Gold. I think these will be the main 2 battling for the Grand Prix final and World golds in Pairs agin. Kavaguti & Smirnov could also threaten for gold if she recovers from her injury but they have been so inconsistent in their careers up to now.

    Battle for Canadian Pairs title- This will be a dogfight with Dube & Davison likely out.

    Battle for U.S Pairs title- Another dogfight I predict.

    Battle for Russian World team spots- There are currently 4 strong teams that will be vying for only 3 spots.


    Men:

    Takahashi vs Chan for Mens Gold. These are really the only 2 skaters I can see contending for the World title this year. Being in Japan it will be Takahashi who has the advantage if both skate their best, and Chan seems the more likely of the two to miss jumps as well.


    Ladies:

    U.S title battle- Nagasu vs Flatt vs Czisny vs Wagner vs Zawadski. This will be great.

    Battle for World title- Who knows who is even in this now. I am thinking by March it will be Kim, Rochette making a return to skate at Worlds and bid for the World title which appears open this year, and 1 of Asada or Nagasu recovered enough to threaten for gold.


    Dance:

    European title battle- I predict without Domnina & Shabalin this will be exciting although Faiella & Scali look like the early favorites.

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    Gao is totally in the race for the US title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverlake22 View Post
    Gao is totally in the race for the US title.
    Has she competed in any of the summer events? How has she done. At her level of last year I dont think she is really but maybe she has improved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    Has she competed in any of the summer events? How has she done. At her level of last year I dont think she is really but maybe she has improved.
    Her international scores so far this season:

    JGP Austria - 167.14 (SP - 58.07) (FS - 109.07)

    JGP Germany - 155.67 (SP - 47.66) (FS - 108.01)

    She also competed at 2 summer events which she both won and landed 3f-3t in all her competitions so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    Men:

    Takahashi vs Chan for Mens Gold. These are really the only 2 skaters I can see contending for the World title this year. Being in Japan it will be Takahashi who has the advantage if both skate their best, and Chan seems the more likely of the two to miss jumps as well.
    Take into consideration that Takahashi will be defending his title for the first time. Repeat champions have all said that the worlds after their first win was the hardest. It's not impossible to win, but it's an amazing amount of pressure. That he will be defending at HOME with the way the Japanese media goes all "fangirl" on their skaters, the pressure is going to be immense. Much like Browning defending his title in Canada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonichelle View Post
    Take into consideration that Takahashi will be defending his title for the first time. Repeat champions have all said that the worlds after their first win was the hardest. It's not impossible to win, but it's an amazing amount of pressure. That he will be defending at HOME with the way the Japanese media goes all "fangirl" on their skaters, the pressure is going to be immense. Much like Browning defending his title in Canada.
    This is all true. However Takahashi skated very well at Worlds in 2007 at home. A very shaky combination jump in the short which he fought to hang onto but which ended up being downgraded too clearly cost him the gold medal this year, but since it wasnt a fall or outright miss it is hard to call it a choking mistake, just a mistake that was still very costly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverlake22 View Post
    Gao is totally in the race for the US title.
    Gao, when skating back to back with other girls, isn't impressive. Her presence on ice is significantly less than the young girls like Vanessa Lam, Yasmin Siraj. She has the jumps, but she skates like a junior after so many years on the senior scenes. I don't see her getting higher PCS than Flatt or Czisny or Nagasu or Wagner.
    Gao is totally in the race for 5th place, now that there are quite a few new girls who are better skaters overall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    This is all true. However Takahashi skated very well at Worlds in 2007 at home. A very shaky combination jump in the short which he fought to hang onto but which ended up being downgraded too clearly cost him the gold medal this year, but since it wasnt a fall or outright miss it is hard to call it a choking mistake, just a mistake that was still very costly.
    he wasn't world champion in 2007. it's a little different this time around. Kurt Browning skated at the Olympics at home in 88 - before he was a world champion - and had no problem, just had a lot of fun. It was completely different when he was teh one being hunted as reigning world champion skating at home. He still won the event, but it was almost pure luck. pressure is going to be extreme.

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    A Nagasu/Czisny Worlds team would be divine!

    I doubt that Gao will get the PCS necessary to beat them - and that's totally justified. Mirai and Alissa will also score very highly in the spins and steps, and Gao won't. Gao is a good skater, but she hasn't even won a JGP event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonichelle View Post
    he wasn't world champion in 2007. it's a little different this time around. Kurt Browning skated at the Olympics at home in 88 - before he was a world champion - and had no problem, just had a lot of fun. It was completely different when he was teh one being hunted as reigning world champion skating at home. He still won the event, but it was almost pure luck. pressure is going to be extreme.
    Kurt skated wonderfully at the 1990 Worlds to win! I dont see how you can say that was
    luck. He was still lucky Petrenko didnt skate that well in the LP I guess, but it wasnt like Kurt struggled and lucky Petrenko and others did too, he himself skated excellently to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    Kurt skated wonderfully at the 1990 Worlds to win! I dont see how you can say that was
    luck.
    Because he himself said it. And his short program had a huge mistake where he doubled the 3Axel. He threw one in at the very end of the program and held onto it. That's luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oleada View Post
    A Nagasu/Czisny Worlds team would be divine!

    I doubt that Gao will get the PCS necessary to beat them - and that's totally justified. Mirai and Alissa will also score very highly in the spins and steps, and Gao won't. Gao is a good skater, but she hasn't even won a JGP event.
    At least Gao rotates her jumps

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverlake22 View Post
    At least Gao rotates her jumps
    So did Mirai today. And at the Olympics. And Alissa's jump technique in Canada.
    Gao might be a strong jumper, but as for the rest of the skating, there is absolutely no comparison.

    Alissa has one of the highest LPs so far this season, and she didn't even need to be clean to get it. She's been consistently outscoring the competition in spins and GOE for years now. It's a big asset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverlake22 View Post
    At least Gao rotates her jumps
    Just curious since you seem to know alot about Christina........

    Why do you think Orser kept her on the Jr circuit for another season? Isn't she old enough for seniors?

    I think you know I like Christina alot - but there must be reasons she stayed down with the juniors this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    European title battle- I predict without Domnina & Shabalin this will be exciting although Faiella & Scali look like the early favorites.
    Round one went to Pechalat and Bourzat with barely a fight. Will be interesting to see if the Kerrs can threaten F/S in Russia.

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