Is anyone really arguing that, though? For the long, the consensus seems to acknowledge that Kozuka deserved to beat Mroz (because of his spins, steps, jump GOE/extra jump in the bonus period, and deservedly superior PCS), but that Mroz deserved to beat Joubert and Verner on TES (because he landed all of his jumps, which were overall harder than both Verner and Joubert).
Questioning the UR calls on Joubert's 4T and Verner's 3A doesn't necessarily mean questioning their placements. I really don't like how <, <<, and e can be applied inconsistently, but I think the placements were still pretty fair. Joubert might have deserved bronze over Verner, but maybe not.





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