11-06-2010, 06:52 PM
leave no stone unturned
What sins did Joubert paid for? The thing is he got low levels on his spins (and footwork?) , and I dont get it because level 1 means some positions didnt count? He is not a bad spinner, his spins have been improved the recent years but people refuse to see it , they are fast and well centered but he always gets low levels, it doesnt matter if they are pretty, Plushenko managed to always have 3-4 level on spins and were far worse aesthetically, that means that Joubert's coach does something wrong with the rules? I was not enthusiastic about the program presentation-wise but I didnt fall asleep like with Mrozz who did better jumps but he jumps small and skates small, of course thats why I m not the one who is judging the event
Forgot to ask, what is the Ur in single loop of Joubert? Isnt there a new rule about single loop counting for combos??
Last edited by seniorita; 11-06-2010 at 07:05 PM.
11-06-2010, 06:58 PM
Exactly. It was not just the UR call, right or wrong, that did Joubert in. Urmanov was spot on about the levels, too. I realize the criteria have changed, but Joubert is just throwing away points on his spins and footwork sequence right now. Also, if he actually intended to do a flip as his final combination, he or his team are idiots. He lips and probably won't ever be able to correct it at this stage of the game, and yet he could have done another lutz instead and not been in violation of the Zayak rule. Hard to tell how much of his jump layout was improvised, but that one really stood out to me.
Originally Posted by Medusa
I do think Joubert's footwork in the SP may have been assessed incorrectly, although that depends on whether the mandatory feature (simple variety/variety/complexity) counts as one of the features for determining the level itself. Does anyone know? If it does, it looked to me like he met the criteria for Level 3 (enough turns and steps for "variety", use of upper body, 50%+ of the pattern all on one foot). If not, Level 2 was correct.
11-06-2010, 07:06 PM
I´m not willing to talk about judging in figure skating. That´s frustrates me to much! I can´t imagine that people who follow this sport for years belive in fairness.
That´s all what I wand to say, good night. It´s time to go bed in germany
11-06-2010, 07:19 PM