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    TEB Short Dance Virtual Program and Preview: Fri. Nov.26 2:30PM EST

    Pechalat and Bourzat FRA should win both the short dance and the entire event with ease. They have excellent programs for both the SD and the FD, have prepared carefully by skating several summer competitions, and should easily breeze into the GPF with 30 points after TEB. Their short dance to music from the Dr. Zhivago soundtrack is an excellent one!

    However, the last Grand Prix spot will be decided here at TEB, and the result is by no means certain. Chock and Zuerlein USA could make the Grand Prix Final by finishing second here. The other teams skating here are mathematically eliminated, as even a win would not garner them enough points to pass Hoffman and Zavozin for HUN the last spot. However, Riazanova and Tkachenko RUS or Carron and Jones FRA could win the silver here over Team Chock.

    In the short dance, Chock and Zuerlein's previous scores were lower than Carron/Jones and Riazanova/Tkachenko. However Chock/Zuerlein had 2 costly mistakes at Skate Canada. Madison had a problem in the twizzles, which cost them both a level and GOE (and this team normally has good twizzles). More peculiar, their Rotational Lift was only called level one. They & their coaches should have been able to easily put in a higher scoring lift. Consequently, their well-choreographed SD to Edith Piaf songs could yield a significantly better score here than at Skate Canada. And their FD was significantly better than the other teams, other than Pechalat's. I think they will take the silver here.

    If they don't, the team most likely to finish second would be Riazanova and Tkachenko. Their Short Dance is a lovely one, set to Sviridov's waltz from Snowstorm. However, they skated it very well at Skate America, and there are no easy places for them to pick up higher technical scores than they did there.

    Carron and Jones are skating on home ice, but in my opinion, their programs are not as interesting and well-skated as either Riazanova & Tkachenko's or as Chock & Zuerlein's. They skated their short dance well at Skate Canada, and so have no easy way to gain technical points. Nonetheless, they are skating to a Jacques Brel waltz, they are on home ice, and they should have the advantage of the support of the audience. It is never smart to ignore the effects of those advantages.



    For those who miss the CD, here are past scores from earlier events on the Grand Prix for those who are competing here in bold, with some high scores of the season for comparison:

    Davis & White Golden Waltz at Skate America 14.58 (66.97 at NHK/63.62 at SA)
    Kerrs Golden Waltz at Skate Canada 14.50 (62.96 at SC)
    Crone & Poirier Golden Waltz at Skate Canada 14.14 (62.95 at SC/ 12.47 and 60.41 at SA)
    Zhiganshina & Gaszi Golden Waltz at Nebelhorn 13.86 (54.02 at Nebelhorn) (two level 4's!)
    Chock & Zuerlein Golden Waltz at Skate Canada 13.57 (54.19 at SC)
    Bobrova & Soloviev Golden Waltz at CoR 13.43 (60.80 at CoR) (12.86/55.85 at CoC)
    Pechalat & Bourzat Golden Waltz at Cup of China 13.00 (64.12 at CoC)Carron & Jones Golden Waltz at Skate Canada 12.57 (54.43 at Skate Canada)
    Riazanova & Tkachenko at Skate America 11.71 (55.52 at SA)
    Ralph & Hill Golden Waltz at Cup of China 11.07 (48.10 at CoC)
    Huang & Zheng Golden Waltz at Cup of China 11.00 (49.70 at CoC)
    Cannuscio & Lorello Golden Waltz at Cup of China 5.48 (38.34) Both segments level 1
    Turoczi and Major Golden Waltz at NHK 4.67 (32.68 at NHK)


    And past scores for the SD on the GP for the TEB entrants:
    Pechalat & Bourzat 64.12 CoC
    Riazanova & Tkachenko 55.52 SA
    Carron & Jones 54.43 SC
    Chock & Zuerlein 54.19 SC
    Huang & Zheng 49.70 CoC
    Cannuscio & Lorello 38.34 CoC
    Turoczi & Major 32.68 NHK


    WARM UP GROUP 1

    Dora TUROCZI / Balazs MAJOR HUN 58th ISU World Standings
    Coach: Ilona Berecz
    Choreographer: Galit Chait
    FD Be Italian by Fergie 10th at NHK ( 54.72)

    SD Waltz: The Royal Waltz; Quickstep: Sing, Sing, Sing
    SD Short Dance 10th at NHK (32.68)

    Rotational Lift Level 4
    Golden Waltz Segment 1 Level 1
    Golden Waltz Segment 2 Level 2
    Sequential Twizzle Level 3
    Not Touching Midline Step Level 1

    Base 18.50
    TES 15.81
    PCS 16.87
    TOTAL 32.86

    Isabella CANNUSCIO / Ian LORELLO USA 48th in ISU Standings
    Coach: Karen Ludington, A. Kirsanov, C. Moxley
    Choreographer: Alexander Kirsanov
    FD West Side Story by Leonard Bernstein , 10th in the FD at Cup of China (63.49)
    SD Piano Man by Billy Joel 10th in the SD at Cup of China ( 38.34 )

    Sequential Twizzle Level 4
    Not Touching Midline Step Level 1
    Golden Waltz Segment 2 Level 1
    Golden Waltz Segment 1 Level 1
    Rotational Lift Level 4

    Base 19.50
    TES 19.05
    PCS 19.29
    Total 38.34



    Ekaterina RIAZANOVA / Ilia TKACHENKO RUS 30th in ISU World Standings
    Coach: Alexei Gorshkov
    Choreographer: Sergei Petukhov
    FD Mexico 5th at Skate America (81.62)
    SD Waltz: The Snowstorm by Georgi Sviridov 5th at Skate America (55.52)

    Not Touching Midline Step Level 2
    Golden Waltz Segment 1 Level 3
    Golden Waltz Segment 2 Level 2
    Sequential Twizzle Level 4
    Rotational Lift Level 4

    Base 26.00
    TES 28.49
    PCS 27.03
    Total 55.52

    Kharis RALPH / Asher HILL CAN 22nd in ISU World Standings
    Coach: Carol Lane, Juris Razguljaevs
    Choreographer: Carol Lane, Juris Razguliaevs
    FD Summertime by George Gershwin; Senie, 7th at Cup of China ( 71.41) in the FD

    SD Ten Minutes Ago by Richard Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein; 6th in the SD at Cup of China (48.10)

    Golden Waltz Segment 2 Level 2
    Golden Waltz Segment 1 Level 3
    Rotational Lift Level 3
    Sequential Twizzle Level 4
    Not Touching Midline Step Level 1

    Base 24.00
    TES 25.01
    PCS 23.09
    Total 48.10

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    Pernelle CARRON / Lloyd JONES FRA 21st in ISU World Standings
    Coach: Muriel Zazoui, Romain Haguenauer, D. Ribas
    Choreographer: Antonio Najarro
    FD Paint It Black and Angie by The Rolling Stones; 5th 81.60 at Skate Canada
    SD Waltz: La Valse A Mille Temps by Jacques Brel; 3rd at Skate Canada (54.43)

    Sequential Twizzle Level 4
    Golden Waltz Segment 1 Level 4
    Golden Waltz Segment 1 Level 2
    Rotational Lift Level 3
    Not Touching Midline Step Level 2
    Transitional Lift

    Base 26.50
    TES 28.71
    PCS 25.72
    Total 54.43


    Xintong HUANG / Xun ZHENG CHN 17th in ISU Standings
    Coach: Hongyan Xi
    Choreographer: Natalia Linichuk
    FD Singing in the Rain; 6th at Cup of China( 74.90)

    SD Waltz: Waltz No. 2 from Jazz Suite No. 2 by Dmitri Shostakovich; 5th at Cup of China (49.70)

    Sequential Twizzle Level 4
    Not Touching Midline Step Level 1
    Golden Waltz Segment 1 Level 3
    Golden Waltz Segment 2 Level 2
    Rotational Lift Level 4
    Transitional Lift

    Base 24.50
    TES 25.08
    PCS 24.62
    Total 49.70


    Madison CHOCK / Greg ZUERLEIN USA 16th in ISU World Standings
    Coach: Igor Shpilband, Marina Zueva
    Choreographer: Igor Shpilband, Marina Zueva
    FD Caberet soundtrack: Money and Life Is A Caberet; 4th at Skate Canada (84.86)

    SD Foxtrot: Milord by Edith Piaf; Waltz: Padam Padam by Edith Piaf; 4th at Canada (54.19)

    SD 4th Skate Canada 54.19
    Not Touching Midline Step Level 3
    Sequential Twizzle Level 3 problem (Madison)
    Golden Waltz Segment 1 Level 4
    Golden Waltz Segment 2 Level 3
    Rotational Lift Level 1

    Base 26.00
    TES 28.21
    PCS 25.96
    TOTAL 54.19

    Nathalie PECHALAT / Fabian BOURZAT FRA 2nd ISU World Standings
    Coach: Alexander Zhulin, Oleg Volkov, Maxim Staviski
    Choreographer: Alexander Zhulin
    FD Charlie Chaplin medley; 1st at Cup of China {95.47}

    SD Waltz: Main theme from "Dr. Zhivago" (soundtrack) by Maurice Jarre; 1st at Cup of China ( 64.12)

    Sequential Twizzle Level 4
    Not Touching Midline Step Level 4
    Golden Waltz Segment 2 Level 2
    Golden Waltz Segment 1 Level 4
    Rotational Lift Level 4

    Base 30
    TES 32.71
    PCS 21.41
    total 64.12
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    And I'll bump this up to get it back in order ahead of the FD

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    Guess I'm the only one here. Oh well.

    WARM UP GROUP 1

    Dora TUROCZI / Balazs MAJOR HUN 58th ISU World Standings
    SD Waltz: The Royal Waltz; Quickstep: Sing, Sing, Sing
    SD Short Dance 10th at NHK (32.68)

    Blue Shirt, grey vest and pants. Looks very young
    Blue spaghetti strap gown with really BIG
    sequins and kind of random blue and light blue ruffles
    Fake elbow length gloves with the hands bare in blue


    Rotational Lift Level 4 Nice if a little slow
    Golden Waltz Segment 1 Level 2? varying distance between partnhers
    screen freeze good shoot the duck
    Golden Waltz Segment 2 Level 2 usual cascade problem
    jazzy drum beats to sing sing sing
    Sequential Twizzle Level 4 I think
    Not Touching Midline Step Level ? screen freeze
    Should be better than their last outing
    TES 23.42
    PCS 18.85
    -1
    TOTAL 41.27 SB

    Isabella CANNUSCIO / Ian LORELLO USA 48th in ISU Standings
    SD Piano Man by Billy Joel
    SD 10th at Cup of China ( 38.34 )

    Really strange peach shirt on him lace with shiny lapels and ruffles
    black pants
    She has one shoulder look but with two straps peach and orange

    Sequential Twizzle Level 4 very nice spring in the jump in, too, and dancy & lilting around the corner
    Can I say I really like this waltzy twizzle??
    Not Touching Midline Step Level 2 at best they need edges
    Golden Waltz Segment 2 Level 2
    Golden Waltz Segment 1 Level ? huge screen freeze
    Rotational Lift Level 4 it was last time
    she has nice arms
    TES 31.17
    PCS 31.01
    Total 52.19 SB by a huge amount. This is
    a high scoring event, it seems.
    They are really thrilled!


    Ekaterina RIAZANOVA / Ilia TKACHENKO RUS 30th in ISU World Standings
    SD Waltz: The Snowstorm by Georgi Sviridov
    SD 5th at Skate America (55.52)
    black tie, white shirt, black tux coat grey pants, fussy figured vest
    lovely white dress with white fake elbow gloves


    Not Touching Midline Step Level 3 think better than at Skate America
    Golden Waltz Segment 1 Level 3 ?
    Golden Waltz Segment 2 Level 2 no onthe cascade
    Sequential Twizzle Level 4 not special but done
    second set got poor ice coverage (or the camera angle is not helping?)
    Rotational Lift Level 4 might be short a rotation
    and back to level 3?
    done

    TES 32.09
    PCS 28.72
    Total 60.81 sb
    This is a huge scoring event

    Kharis RALPH / Asher HILL CAN 22nd in ISU World Standings
    SD Ten Minutes Ago by Richard Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein;
    SD 6th in the SD at Cup of China (48.10)

    They are still in the really bad outfits
    might be fitted a little better and some fabric taken out of the kirt? she has a little tiara
    Golden Waltz Segment 2 Level 2
    unison of leg line not great
    Golden Waltz Segment 1 Level 3
    Rotational Lift Level 3
    Sequential Twizzle Level 3 (think they were short a rotation on 2nd set?)
    Not Touching Midline Step Level 2
    Spinning move into final pose
    Holding her foot/slipper (Cinderella) at end
    rather sweet.

    TES 28.51
    PCS 21.99
    Total 50.50
    Total 50.50 behind Cannuscio

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    Kharis RALPH / Asher HILL CAN 22nd in ISU World Standings
    SD Ten Minutes Ago by Richard Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein;
    SD 6th in the SD at Cup of China (48.10)

    They are still in the really bad outfits
    might be fitted a little better and some fabric taken out of the kirt? she has a little tiara
    I know I've said it before but their costumes fit the movie the music is from.

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    Very likely.
    But when you get put on Nick Verreos's worst dressed list, you should consider retailoring the dress, no matter whether it matches the movie, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    Very likely.
    But when you get put on Nick Verreos's worst dressed list, you should consider retailoring the dress, no matter whether it matches the movie, IMO.
    I guess I just don't see it as a bad costuming, maybe because I enjoyed the made for tv remake of a made for tv movie...

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    Riazanova & Tkachenko broke 60!

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    In general I'd say the tech committee is more generous and the judges too than other ones

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    I agree, can't see the team that got below 40, got over 12 points jump in few weeks.

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    WARM UP GROUP 2

    Pernelle CARRON / Lloyd JONES FRA 21st in ISU World Standings
    SD Waltz: La Valse A Mille Temps by Jacques Brel;
    SD 3rd at Skate Canada (54.43)
    these costumes are really random.
    Napoleonic soldier (hotel doorman?) and chorus girl???
    Sequential Twizzle Level 4 slow but OK
    whole program a little slow
    Golden Waltz Segment 1 Level 3
    Golden Waltz Segment 2 Level 2
    Rotational Lift Level 4 pretty nice
    Not Touching Midline Step Level 2
    Transitional Lift very spinny

    Does this song sound better if you know French?
    If you don't, it's really monotonous.
    TES 27.42
    PCS 25.94
    Total 53.36

    Xintong HUANG / Xun ZHENG CHN 17th in ISU Standings
    SD Waltz: Waltz No. 2 from Jazz Suite No. 2 by Dmitri Shostakovich;
    SD th at Cup of China (49.70)
    shirt tail out hanging purple vest, fake tear in the back
    purple handkerchief hanging out of his pocket
    black pants, repp tie loosened
    pretty white dress with purple tim on her
    Sequential Twizzle Level 4 quite nice but not in synch
    Not Touching Midline Step Level 2 screen freeze
    Golden Waltz Segment 1 Level 3
    Golden Waltz Segment 2 Level 2
    a little faster than at coc Screen Freeze
    Rotational Lift Level 4
    Transitional Lift

    TES 25.50
    PCS 24.05
    Total 49.55


    Madison CHOCK / Greg ZUERLEIN USA 16th in ISU World Standings
    SD Foxtrot: Milord by Edith Piaf; Waltz: Padam Padam by Edith Piaf; 4th at Canada (54.19)
    SD 4th Skate Canada 54.19
    black dress with lace scoop neckline
    white underskirt


    Not Touching Midline Step Level 3
    Sequential Twizzle Level 3 better than sc
    Golden Waltz Segment 1 Level 4 nice lilt
    beautiful shoot the duck
    Golden Waltz Segment 2 Level 3
    nice waltz feeling throughout, nice transitions
    Rotational Lift Level 4 better than SC
    They are happy. Pretty good applause
    Don't think they were as fast as R&T,
    should score behind them.

    TES 31.41
    PCS 26.68
    TOTAL 58.09 SB into 2nd

    Nathalie PECHALAT / Fabian BOURZAT FRA 2nd ISU World Standings
    SD Waltz: Main theme from "Dr. Zhivago" (soundtrack) by Maurice Jarre;
    SD 1st at Cup of China ( 64.12)
    Same pretty red dress with black jet beads

    Sequential Twizzle Level 4 slightly out of synch 2nd set of 3
    Not Touching Midline Step Level 4 I think
    Golden Waltz Segment 2 Level 2 think he piffed the pivot
    Golden Waltz Segment 1 Level 4
    slowing down a bit?
    Rotational Lift Level 4 maybe short a rotation?
    About the same as at Coc, maybe a little worse, so probably will
    score higher?
    Small slips show up on slo mo.

    TES 33.24
    PCS 32.24
    total 65.48

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    Quote Originally Posted by samba View Post
    I agree, can't see the team that got below 40, got over 12 points jump in few weeks.
    This season, many dance couples have had issues with the content of the Short Dance on the first competitive outing, then took the feedback and fixed/improved things for the second outing. Cannuscio/Lorello's PCS went up a couple of points between CoC and TEB, their big jump was on the TES side--but at CoC, their dance was just too simple, too many level 1 elements, and neutral or negative GOE's on those. Also some oopsies on execution. All these things are possible to improve in a short period.

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