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    Quote Originally Posted by herios View Post
    Because she just wobbled into it. It wasn't a clear outside edge. Period.
    Looked fine to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oleada View Post
    I would be shocked if Mirai's 3F didn't get the < call.
    Or me on her 2 axel.

    She keeps having these landings which are all close calls. Why are they not working on her spring, so the juges will be able to give her the benefit of doubt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by burntBREAD View Post
    Alissa's in 4th and Kiira's in pole position to take away her GPF spot!
    Korpi won't necessarily take away Alissa's GPF spot, even if Kiira wins and Alissa ends up in 4th. They would both have 24 points, and the TOTAL SCORE would break the tie. Right now, Korpi has 209.83 total points, while Alissa has 227.87. That means Korpi would have to beat Alissa's FS score by 18.05 points. That is definitely not a given, since Korpi is not known for error-free free skates. Alissa doesn't have clean free skates either, but she still scores high with a mistake or two.

    Look at it this way: say Alissa had a rocky FS, scored 92.50, and was in 3rd place when Kiira Korpi took the ice. Korpi would have to score 120.55 to beat Alissa to that GPF berth. That would, BTW, be the highest score of any lady in the GP this season.
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    The top three placements seem fair to me. Mirai's solo 3F has been looking very low and prone to downgrades this season, and as someone pointed out, her layback spin was very wobbly. I'm not the biggest Kiira fan by a longshot, but she had a nice 3-3 and everything else looked quite crisp and clean aside from the very slight turn out on what looked like a fully rotated 3R. I'd have her in first place but not with a score that broke 60. In keeping with my Murakami aversion, I must say that I far prefer Imai and kudos to the latter for attempting a 3R-3T (for a change)! Imai did have some double-footing issues and looked really juniorish out there so her placement seems reasonable. The fact that she has Mr. Nagakubo as a coach makes me want to root for her even more.

    Alissa - sigh...what more needs to be said? And Mao...it's not just that her jumps are looking lower and more unimpressive than ever that worries me, but it's that she was skating at Caroline Zhang's speed level today. In keeping to form, I bet she'll be looking much better by the end of the season.

    Oh, and I don't usually give bonus points for attire, but I couldn't help noticing that Alissa's and Kiira's dresses (especially Alissa's) are gorgeous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by herios View Post
    Or me on her 2 axel.

    She keeps having these landings which are all close calls. Why are they not working on her spring, so the juges will be able to give her the benefit of doubt?
    Maybe I need to watch again - but Mirai seemed to be one of the few Ladies today who had a nice flow out her jumps, the 2A being one of them.

    Trouble is watching these Live streams is not as good for me as a TV broadcast.
    Maybe all of Mirai's jumps were off with bad landings - but I didn't see that.

    I saw nothing from Mirai as off as Kiira's bobbled loop or Cynthia's awkward landing.

    If there were edge calls or borderline URs - I don't see them as easily as more obvious mistakes which interrupt the flow.
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    Mirai's jumps usually do look good, but several different tech specialists have called many as URs. She isn't getting gigged as badly this season, since she's getting < rather than downgrades as she was last season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckm View Post
    Korpi won't necessarily take away Alissa's GPF spot, even if Kiira wins and Alissa ends up in 4th. They would both have 24 points, and the TOTAL SCORE would break the tie. Right now, Korpi has 209.83 total points, while Alissa has 227.87. That means Korpi would have to beat Alissa's FS score by 18.05 points. That is definitely not a given, since Korpi is not known for error-free free skates. Alissa doesn't have clean free skates either, but she still scores high with a mistake or two.

    Look at it this way: say Alissa had a rocky FS, scored 92.50, and was in 3rd place when Kiira Korpi took the ice. Korpi would have to score 120.55 to beat Alissa to that GPF berth. That would, BTW, be the highest score of any lady in the GP this season.
    Hmm, you're right
    But with this group of ladies' you could get ANYTHING in the LP. And Kiira's PCS looks to be close to 60 in the LP judging from the SP (unless she bombs, which I think is kind of likely), so that should boost her score

    The biggest way I believe for Korpi and Nagasu to knock Alissa off the GPF slot is by placements, which is quite possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by burntBREAD View Post
    Hmm, you're right
    But with this group of ladies' you could get ANYTHING in the LP. And Kiira's PCS looks to be close to 60 in the LP judging from the SP (unless she bombs, which I think is kind of likely), so that should boost her score

    The biggest way I believe for Korpi and Nagasu to knock Alissa off the GPF slot is by placements, which is quite possible.
    Alissa would have to finish 5th to lose her GPF slot. I could see Korpi, Nagasu and possibly Imai finishing ahead of her, but not Phaneuf, Asada, Sugui or anyone else. 4th would very likely seal the deal for Alissa, and I think that is pretty much a done deal. I just don't think Korpi can beat her by 18+ points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckm View Post
    Alissa would have to finish 5th to lose her GPF slot. I could see Korpi, Nagasu and possibly Imai finishing ahead of her, but not Phaneuf, Asada, Sugui or anyone else. 4th would very likely seal the deal for Alissa, and I think that is pretty much a done deal. I just don't think Korpi can beat her by 18+ points.
    See, I think that it might depend on Phaneuf, and Asada, to a lesser extent but she still appear to be struggling so I'm not betting on her. A clean Cynthia could score high, but it's a big ask. Alissa really just needs to stay on her feet and she's in at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusia View Post
    In keeping with my Murakami aversion, I must say that I far prefer Imai and kudos to the latter for attempting a 3R-3T (for a change)! Imai did have some double-footing issues and looked really juniorish out there so her placement seems reasonable. The fact that she has Mr. Nagakubo as a coach makes me want to root for her even more.
    I don't dislike Kanako but I see more potential in Haruka as all her techniques look more refined and I like her grace! Go Haruka win the gold!
    Agree with the top 3- I loved Korpi's short at NHK and she was even better here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckm View Post
    Look at it this way: say Alissa had a rocky FS, scored 92.50, and was in 3rd place when Kiira Korpi took the ice. Korpi would have to score 120.55 to beat Alissa to that GPF berth. That would, BTW, be the highest score of any lady in the GP this season.
    you mean 110.55? instead of 120.55 according to what you say. and if 110.55 is the number to beat, Korpi still has a chance, no?

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    I think in order for Kiira and Alissa to tie placement wise to get into GPF, Kiira needs to win and Alissa needs to be 4th or lower. Right now, Korpi has 209.83 total points, while Alissa has 227.87, which means Kiira would then need to better Alissa by 18.05 in the LP in order to have a higher total score. So, if Alissa scores a 92.50, that gives her a total point score of 320.73, which means Kiira would then need 110.55 points. So, in other words, Kiira has to outscore Alissa by 18.5 points...I don't see that happening but you never know!
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    I don't know why I am such a slow learner this season, but -- in spite of everything -- I still think Mao is going to win the LP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjsk8fan View Post
    Looked fine to me.
    It did take off from inside edge so she should get e.

    ALso her 3F looked UR.

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    Mirai's spins looked so slow today. Also her free leg position in the layback spin (which had centering problem at the beginning) was bent down in 90 degrees.
    She never had turn outs in her spins before but she used to stretch more.
    Anyways, I hope she's on the podium tmr. If she does it will be her first medal from a senior international competition.

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