Plush: should he get rid of Biellmann?

windspirit

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Plush said in an interview that he'd like to get rid of the spin, but his fans won't let him.

So, what do GSers think? http://www.members.lycos.co.uk/windspirit6/sm/vote.gif

 

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Germanice

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OOUUCH! YES!!!!!!!

Anke

 

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FrozenHeart

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Although it´s his trademark, I´d prefer him not to hurt himself doing it again and again. Denise is still able to perform it and she´s 40 (?). Didn´t look to me as if Plush might be able to do the Biellmann for the next 20 years. So he should get rid of it now!

 

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BronzeisGolden

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Well, even though it took me a while to get used to a man performing this spin, I did come to appreciate it as part of his skating. It helps to set him apart from others. But, if it is aggrevating or even possibly causing injury, then he should definitely drop it. He could always go with the semi-layback that Petrenko used to do. I always enjoyed that. I think Rudy Galindo also had a nice semi-layback.

 

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icenut84

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I voted "no" without reading the first post. I didn't realise Plush himself said he wants to get rid of it - if that's the case, and/or if it's causing him any problems to perform it, then he shouldn't do it any more. There's plenty of variations of positions he could do instead that also make use of his back flexibility, like the Petrenko-esque layback that someone else mentioned.

 

dlkksk8fan

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Plush listen to yourself and forget about your fans GET RID OF THE BIELLMANN SPIN
and concentrate on the other spins that are not all that great.

 

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Flutterby156

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Yes, I think he should definitly get rid of the Biellmann spin, at least until his knee is better.

 

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I voted yes. I really don't like the Beillmann unless Denise Beillmann is doing it.

 

Dee4707

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If it is causing him pain, then I say---get rid of it!!

Dee

 

Joesitz (RIP)

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Although I voted for him to get rid of it, I think he does need it in his competitive routine. Plush, imo, is not a good spinner. I have never seen him do a sitzspin where he actually goes down (fanny near the ice) all the way. All his spins for me are mediocre but then most male figure skaters are.

Joe

 

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Plush: Should he get rid of Biellmann?

I've always thought she's too old for him!

 

Joesitz (RIP)

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Yeah, but she's got one knock out body!!

 

Tonichelle

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yes I do... it's not a flattering spin for him anyway...

not only that but in the Lalique interview when he said he cut his finger on it???? sounds a little too dangerous... he could lose something! LOL

 

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YES, get rid of the dang Biellman (since there are other men now who can do it just as well, or better, like Griazev and Sawyer).

AND....spend a week or so with Todd Eldredge, Paul Wylie (or dig up Scott Davis, wherever he is) and work on the quality and speed of the OTHER spins!!!! It seems in general, since I've been noticing Russian men's skating (Urmanov/Petrenko time frame), spins have generally been slow and weak (even my beloved Yagudin usually didn't have great positions or speed!)

Give us good REAL spins!!!

 

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mike79

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• #15

Add another to the 'Drop the Biellman' list.

 

Doggygirl

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I voted get rid of it...

...but just have to remark on the premise that "his fans won't let him." Since when are his fans in charge of his choreography?????

I guess we should start a Plushy choreography thread and decide what the music and composition will be of his next LP. Who would like to start with his next musical selection????

LOL..

DG

 

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Ah yes, Paul is the spin "doctor"...........anyway, I love Plushenko, and the only thing I don't care for, skating wise, is that spin.....please lose it!!! 42

 

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sk8fanconvert

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I agree! Get rid of the biellmann spin. Often, he doesn't really do it that well anyway- he loses all his speed trying to force the position. I never thought that was his most impressive move.

 

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thisthingcalledlove

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biellmann

I think a skater should only do this move if they do it well, and for some reason, I still think OUCh when I watch him do it. Now, Sasha, Lucinda, Nathalie, Rohene, and Denisse don't give me the ouchies when they do it. And Pluschenko does this weird bent knee thing when he's doing it. It's not attractive at all...

 

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insecureedge

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Yes. Perhaps due to his knee injury, Plushenko's Bielmann looks very labored this year. Plus, his combination spin wasn't upgraded a level with a Bielmann with COP, so it isn't adding to his technical score. Finally, it shows down his spins a lot.

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