01-20-2011, 11:04 PM
Originally Posted by SkateFiguring
We will have to agree to disagree. And, yes, I do admire jumpers, but there has to be more there to make me a fan. For one, Vaughn Chipeur is way more than a jumper. His bluesy number fit him like a glove last year, as did his speed, he could skate circles around Kevin in that department as well. Number two, he does not muscle his jumps, he's a natural, something Kevin isn't, and this coming from a big Kevin fan.
Anyhow, Vaughn has retired now, and I wish him well, as I do Kevin. It was a joy to watch Vaughn at the 2010 Olympics, where he earned his spot on the team. I will miss seeing his natural jumping ability and his flow & speed across the ice.
Here's hoping Kevin can one day jump as impressively as Vaughn, and also earn a spot to the next Olympics.
GOOOOOOOOOOOOO KEVIN & VAUGHN!!!!!
p.s. and your favorite, Patrick.
01-20-2011, 11:20 PM
Knowing the right horse to bet on saves a lot of angst.
Originally Posted by Nadine
I am also realistic about which of my favorites will not likely win. It's very satisfying when a favarite has great winning potential.
01-20-2011, 11:37 PM
Lol, yes, I know what you mean. I could at least always count on Zhenya.
But seriously that's not what it's about for me. I've been watching this much loved sport since the 70's, about 35+ years, and I've seen plenty come & go, some fall by the wayside, others go on to much success. But it's the joy they've given me as a mere spectator that I appreciate. They do this for a living, I watch it for fun, therefore I respect each & every one, no matter their accomplishments. After all they are the ones that put in all the hard work day after day after day ad infinitum, whereas we are just mere spectators enjoying what they make look easy when it's not.
Therefore, I respect them all, not just the mere few that you see on t.v. It's not always about medals. I wish them all well.
01-20-2011, 11:48 PM
Originally Posted by Nadine
01-21-2011, 02:26 AM
Sorry but the huge difference in base value with the extra quads and quad combinations is worth far more than the GOE difference. Chipeur with the amplitude he had on his jumps should have been training quads but wasnt for some reason. And his jumps while good when landed are very inconsistent of course.
Originally Posted by Nadine
01-21-2011, 09:18 AM
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I would have preferred Kevin to get the spot over Vaughn for last year's Olympics, but Skate Canada said the team would depend solely on Nationals and Vaughn did skate better than Kevin at Nationals, so it's only fair that he went (even though I don't particularly like him). In my dreams it would have been Shawn going instead of either of them. It's too bad he didn't skate like he did at Skate America or the 4CC FS at Nats.
01-21-2011, 10:24 AM
Addicted to handsome, artistic male skaters ;-)
Yeah, it is unfortunate.
Originally Posted by blue_idealist
01-21-2011, 02:15 PM
Hi blue_idealist and Siberia82. I agree with you both and who I would have liked to see there. I have just realized that I am REALLY sick of watching Men's FS at Canadians and then feeling like it's Blue Monday all over again. As it's Sawyer's last season (most likely), I want to see him finally make it this time and not just to fizzle out at worlds, to wow the crowd there too. He needs more of a skating future than CSOI because he seems to skate, while fun to watch, somewhat gimmicky programs and I wis he would bring his competitive artistry to his show skating (the Tangos, Amadeus, Alice in Wonderland just to name a few).
I just read a recent Michael Slipchuk article where Sawyer's name was mentioned as an actual possibility to go to Worlds and that's the first time I heard that as an actual quote from him. There always seems to be a young guy that goes all out to snatch the spot away so after 5 years I really have my doubts but with J10 out and other names out of Nationals which leaves room for other skaters to be talked about, this is his opportunity. And unlike the other young guys here, there's no "maybe next year" for this guy. With this years circumstances and the two wonderful programs he has, the time is now for Sawyer as his window of opportunity is drawing to a close.
Again, I have my doubts, just wishful thinking on my part.
01-21-2011, 02:36 PM
Shawn really is a very special, very unique and artistic skater. However, his extreme flexibility, which contributes so much to his skating, also hinders his jumps. So I don't expect him to win a Worlds title but he can definitely place high if he brings his best. He has a very good opportunity to be on Team Canada this year and I hope he will be very happy with his decision to stay competitive this year. Additional kudos to his choreographing his own program. It's really wonderful and I look forward to him performing it in its and his full glory.
eta Reynolds, Chan already have one eye on Sochi - part of the spin and fluff for the Nationals. The title sounds like two of them have just one eye.
Post-Olympic year opens doors in Victoria
I linked this in the Chan thread in The Edge but it should be good here too:
Patrick Chan expects tough competition
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01-21-2011, 03:50 PM
For the World team, Patrick and Kevin are 1-2 no matter what. The third spot can go to anyone and I'm hoping that either Joey Russell or Elije Balde get the nod (more so for the latter). Although I like Shawn, his time has gone and past. We need to focus on the future and without a sonsistent triple axel or even a quad, Shawn is really taking himself out of contention. He's been inconsistent most of his career and I think CSOI and coaching are probably his only future in terms of where skating is. With a lack of international success and no national championship under his belt, his options are really limited.
In the ladies, my gut tells me it's Cynthia. She's an inspiration to a lot of young ladies out there and SC adores her. She is ranked 5th in the world and has had decent results all season.
Amelie Lacoste will win silver. I have no doubts as she is as inconsistent as Cynthia but does not have the same quality to her skating as Cynthia.
Wild card for bronze but I think Kate Charbonneau has a really good shot at it. I love Myriam Samson and Adriana DeSanctis, but just like the men's spots, Kate needs more assignments to get more consistent results.
For pairs, Moores-Towers and Moskovitch, Lawrence and Swiegers and Duhamel and Radford.
Dance, this is tough but Weaver and Poje for the gold, Crone and Poirier for silver and bronze i have no clue. The race for 1-2 will be tight but Weaver/Poje are my sentimental faves.