unchoreographed handholding of the two in Korea. Even during the Olympics, before the competition, Johnny's only comment about Patrick was that he was not intimited by a "17 year old" kid. All his denouncements came after the flower crown incident at the Olympics. And his expressed wish to smack Patrick in the face was in response to question about being rejected by skaters "due to his flamboyant style".
From all videos and photos, Patrick seems to be friends with other skaters he interacts with, media's portrayal not withstanding. He also has good relationships with skaters who are said to be gay. He said he was teased and called gay as a kid when he practiced skating and I understand nobody likes to be called as a different gender or sexual orientation as they really are. However, Patrick hasn't exhibited any homophobic behavior that I know of. If he offended Johnny in private on any issue, Johnny should clarify that. Methinks Johnny is bitter about the Olympics results and he didn't like that Patrick was just above him, taking away his exhibitaion skate. He's certainly voiced his disapproval of his Olympic placement.
oh poor Kozu I want to give him a hug and squeeze him until he smiles again!
Does that make them "boyish"
Does this make him girlish
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2) You are right. In the past, I have geared myself away from off-ice drama and did not bother to read threads on those incidents. So it was a shock to me when I flipped the TV channel and heard Johnny's malign remark, which was out of vengence of being put down, not on ice, but off ice, just as his "slore" response to Lysacek's labeling him a whiner. Is there any incident that Johnny started a fight?
By the way, I knew this thread is supposed to be about GPF Man's Free and I sort of hijacked it due to my lack of knowhow of creating a new thread. I would like to apologize to everyone for it.
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I think Bluebonnet is probably Chan's mom.
When Mathman dazzles us with numbers, he is the Math Man, who is not afraid to be in touch with his funny side.
So am I, evidently. There are so many Moms here, including Pangtongfan, evidently. Unfortunately some Moms think deriding other skaters is their motherly duty. .I think Bluebonnet is probably Chan's mom.
Do you know Johnny in person? How do you know his extreme attire was out of an attention-seeking motive? It's your assumption, isn't it? Based on what? Common knowledge? Do you hold a doctoral degree in counselling or clinical psychology? I bet you don't, or you would not have jumped into that conclusion. There are many alternative explanations. For instance, biker gangs wear leather vests to proclaim their affiliations, running the risk of drawing the police's attention. Is Johnny's dress a way of his proclaiming his affiliation to a certain group that he is not ready to say? I don't know. I do know, however, that some people dress in a certain way to reflect their mental stage yet without the attention-grabbing desire. Could Johnny's extreme attire was simply his longing to live out of the "box", the stereotypical framework that defines how a man should behave, or simply his expression of his messed-up life (He just broke up with his "lover" and lost himself as he said in the recent CTV interview)? Attention may be an unwanted by-product. I am not him, so I don't know.
Yes, I indeed sought counsel. And you have helped me a lot by providing a link to Matt Wells' interview and by giving me some new perspectives. I have no intention of changing others' opinions. In fact, when I said I needed counselling, I meant I was hoping that someone like you whose insight is well-respected by me could change my opinions. I really appreciate your help. Your posts have been always highly regarded. As I said it before and I will say it again, I am really happy that you join the forum.