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Pics, please!but that child-molesting image is still daunting my brain whenever I see his crawling hand.
On a serious note, you'd people better take care of your own life than gossiping aorund.
Pics, please!but that child-molesting image is still daunting my brain whenever I see his crawling hand.
And then when you factor in PCS (where I believe Mao should have been something like 8 points ahead) it's a clear victory for her.
UPDATED LIST (for National Record Holders in Single Figure Skating):
Men = J. Ferguson Page (BRITISH) & Oliver Honer (SWISS) = 11
***Honorable Mentions with 10 = Carlo Fassi (ITA), Nobuo Sato (JPN), Bo Mothander (SWE), Hans Landh (SWE), Alain Giletti (FRA).***
Women = Gabriele Seyfert (GER) & Andree Joly (FRA) = 10
***Honorable Mentions with 9 = Maribel Vinson-Owen (USA), Michelle Kwan (USA), Chen Lu (CHN), Midori Ito (JPN), Surya Bonaly (FRA), Constance Wilson-Samuel (CAN), Anne Karin Dehle (NOR).***
I loooove history, so have had a blast fact checking, searching, being awed & wowed. For instance, I was blown away when I discovered Andree Joly also won 11 Pairs National Championships with her partner (later to become her husband) Pierre Brunet! Holy cow! Not only that they're also two-time Olympic Gold Medalists in Pairs (would've been 3time, but they refused to attend the 1936 Olympic Games because of Nazi Germany at the time). Btw, his bio says he medalled 10times at Nationals, but that's an error, most likely confused with his wife's 10. Oh yeah, they also went on to become renown coaches, having coached Carol Heiss & Scott Hamilton. ^) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrée_Joly
Wolfgang Schwarz (AUT)
Wow I didnt realize Miki received that many points for GOE on her non jump elements. That is indeed absurd (and yes I did see her performance). It is clear the Japanese federation sees her as there #1 over Mao and trying to politik her with ridiculous scores. I guess they dont trust Mao totally again yet.
I guess I was being kind to Miki. She probably didnt deserve to win over Mao at all, all things considered.
Well maybe not by 8 points or so. But by 1-2 points is reasonable. Mao left a lot of points on the table. two footed 3A, no Lutzs, double salcow and no 3+2+2 combo. I think maybe JFS, let Miki win so it will give Mao motivation to ontinue to work on her jumps technique. Lets face it, Miki maybe not be the most talented one in term of non jump wise, but she sure work hard to be above average.
Funny how things work out. Since the 1968 Olympics Emmerich Danzer has had a full and admirable life both in and out of skating. Schwarz is in prison for kidnapping women in eastern Europe for prostitution.
Mao didn't two-foot her 3A in the LP. Why have multiple people now said that? Here's the exact scores I would have given. You can list your protocols too! What fun.
MAO ASADA
1. 3A< --- 6.00 ---> +1 GOE ---> 7.00
2. 3F+2Lo --- 7.10 ---> +1 GOE ---> 7.80
3. 3Lz --- 6.00 ---> -1 goe ---> 5.30
4. CCoSp4 --- 3.50 ---> +2 GOE ---> 4.50
5. 2A+2T --- 5.17x ---> +1 GOE ---> 5.67
6. 3F+2Lo --- 7.81x ---> 0 GOE ---> 7.81
7. ChSp1 --- 2.00 ---> +3 GOE ---> 5.00
8. 2S --- 1.54x ---> 0 GOE ---> 1.54
9. FSSp4 --- 3.00 ---> +1 GOE ---> 3.50
10. SlSt3 --- 3.30 ---> +2 GOE ---> 4.30
11. 3Lo --- 5.61x ---> +1 GOE ---> 6.31
12. FCCoSp4 --- 3.50 ---> +1 GOE ---> 4.00
Skating Skills ---> 8.50
Transitions/Linking Footwork/Movements ---> 7.75
Performance/Execution ---> 8.25
Choreography/Composition ---> 8.50
Interpretation ---> 8.25
Total Technical Score -- 62.73
Total Program Components Score (factorized) -- 66.00
TOTAL SCORE -- 128.73
MIKI ANDO
1. 3Lz+2Lo --- 7.80 ---> +1 GOE ---> 8.50
2. 3Lo --- 5.10 ---> +1 GOE ---> 5.80
3. FSSp4 --- 3.00 ---> 0 GOE ---> 3.00
4. CCoSp4 --- 3.50 ---> 0 GOE ---> 3.50
5. ChSp1 --- 2.00 ---> 0 GOE ---> 2.00
6. 2A+3T --- 8.14x ---> +1 GOE ---> 8.84
7. 3Lz --- 6.60x ---> +1 GOE ---> 7.30
8. 3S --- 4.62x ---> 0 GOE ---> 4.62
9. 3T --- 4.51x ---> +1 GOE ---> 5.21
10. 2A+2Lo+2Lo --- 7.59x ---> +1 GOE ---> 8.09
11. SlSt2 --- 2.30 ---> +1 GOE ---> 2.80
12. FCCoSp4 --- 3.50 ---> 0 GOE ---> 3.50
Skating Skills ---> 8.00
Transitions/Linking Footwork/Movements ---> 7.50
Performance/Execution ---> 7.75
Choreography/Composition ---> 6.50
Interpretation ---> 6.50
Total Technical Score -- 63.16
Total Program Components Score (factorized) -- 58.00
TOTAL SCORE -- 121.16
Lol, since I'm iced in I decided to do a complete list of Figure Skating National Record Holders in ALL disciplines, as follows (btw here's my source of reference ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_championships_in_figure_skating):
MEN
Ivan Dinev (BULGARIA) = 14 (btw bio says 11, but Nationals site states 14; he's also the 1st Bulgarian to land a quad in competition and the 1st to medal at a GP event; he coaches now and is married to Angela Nikodinov of the USA).
*Honorable Mentions with 11 =
J. Ferguson Page (BRITISH)
Oliver Honer (SWISS)
Werner Rittberger (GERMANY; creator of the 3R jump).
*Honorable Mentions with 10 =
Carlo Fassi (ITALY)
Nobuo Sato (JAPAN)
Bo Mathander (SWEDISH)
Hans Landh (SWEDISH)
Alain Giletti (FRANCE)
Laszlo Vajda (HUNGARY)
Marcus Nikkanen (FINLAND)
Gregor Urbas (SLOVENIA)
Martin Stixrud (NORWAY; at 44 yrs. old he is the oldest person to ever win an Olympic Medal in an individual winter sport; he also coached Sonja Henie).
WOMEN
Vaike Paduri (ESTONIA) = 14.
*Honorable Mentions with 10 =
Gabriele Seyfert (EAST GERMANY; 1968 Olympic Silver Medalist)
Andree Joly (FRANCE; 1928 & 1932 Olympic Gold Medalist in Pairs & 1924 Olympic Bronze Medalist in Pairs)
Olga Vassiljeva (ESTONIA; btw bio says 4, but Nationals site states 10)
Mojca Kopac (SLOVENIA)
Tatiana Malinina (UZBEKISTAN)
*Honorable Mentions with 9 =
Maribel Vinson-Owen (USA; 1932 Olympic Bronze Medalist)
Michelle Kwan (USA; 1998 Olympic Silver Medalist & 2002 Olympic Bronze Medalist)
Chen Lu (CHINA; 1994 & 1998 Olympic Bronze Medalist; btw bio says 9, but Nationals site states 7 ?)
Midori Ito (JAPAN; 1992 Olympic Silver Medalist)
Surya Bonaly (FRANCE)
Constance Wilson-Samuel (CANADA)
Anne Karin Dehle (NORWAY)
Karen Venhuizen (DUTCH)
Julia Sebestyen (HUNGARY)
Shirene Human (SOUTH AFRICA; btw bio says 10, but Nationals site states 9)
PAIRS
Danielle Carr-McGrath/Stephen Carr (AUSTRALIA) = 19
*Honorable Mention with 12 =
Mariusz Siudek (POLAND; with 3 different partners!)
*Honorable Mention with 11 =
Andree Joly-Brunet/Pierre Brunet (FRANCE; 1924 Olympic Bronze Medalists and 1928 & 1932 Olympic Gold Medalists!)
*Honorable Mentions with 10 =
Sarah Abitbol/Stephane Bernadis (FRANCE)
Alexia Bryn-Schoien/Yngvar Bryn (NORWAY)
Piotr Sczypa (POLAND; with 3 different partners!)
Pierette Dubois/Paul Dubois (SWISS)
Tatiana Granatkina-Tolmacheva/Alexander Tolmachev (USSR; she became one of the founders of the Soviet figure skating school and her husband, Alexander, was the head of the Figure Skating Federation of Moscow)
ICE DANCE
Margarita Drobiazko/Povilas Vanagas (LITHUANIA) = 13 (they remain the only figure skaters in history to have competed in 5 Olympiads!)
*Honorable Mentions with 11 =
Albena Denkova/Maxim Staviski (BULGARIA; 1st Bulgarians to medal at Worlds)
Galit Chait/Sergei Sakhnovski (ISRAEL)
*Honorable Mentions with 10 =
Shae-Lynn Bourne/Victor Kraatz (CANADA)
Ivan McDonald (NEW ZEALAND; with 4 different partners!)
And what this has to do with the japanese nationals?