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    2010 CZE/POL/SVK Nationals

    They'll take place on 17-18 December in Zilina, Slovakia.

    Start list:
    Senior men
    1. Michal Brezina (CZE)
    2. Petr Coufal (CZE)
    3. Nicolas Hejzlar (CZE)
    4. Pavel Kaska (CZE)
    5. Adam Klimovic (CZE)
    6. Jiri Vasicek (CZE)
    7. Tomas Verner (CZE)
    8. Marco Zakouril (CZE)
    9. Kamil Bialas (POL)
    10. Maciej Cieplucha (POL)
    11. Przemyslav Domanski (POL)
    12. Kamil Dymowski (POL)
    13. Sebastian Iwasaki (POL)
    14. Edwin Siwkowski (POL)
    15. Jakub Strobl (SVK)
    16. Patrick Myzyk (-)

    Senior ladies
    1. Martina Bocek (CZE)
    2. Eliska Brezinova (CZE)
    3. Kristina Kostkova (CZE)
    4. Anna Jurkiewicz (POL)
    5. Krystyna Klimczak (POL)
    6. Aneta Michalek (POL)
    7. Ilona Senderek (POL)
    8. Olga Szelc (POL)
    9. Karolina Gutova (SVK)
    10. Alexandra Kunova (SVK)
    11. Karolina Sykorova (SVK)

    Senior pairs
    1. Alexandra Herbrikova & Alexander Zaboev (CZE)
    2. Klara Kadlecova & Petr Bidar (CZE)
    3. Magdalena Jaskolka & Piotr Snopek (POL)
    4. Magdalena Klatka & Radoslaw Chruscinski (POL)
    5. Aleksandra Malinkiewicz & Sebastian Lofek (POL)
    6. Anna Siedlecka & Jakub Tyc (POL)

    Senior ice dance
    1. Lucie Mysliveckova & Matej Novak (CZE)
    2. Justyna Plutowska & Dawid Pietrzynski (POL)
    3. Alexandra Zvorygina & Maciej Bernadowski (POL)
    4. Nikola Visnova & Lukas Csolley (SVK)

    Junior men (only Slovak nationals)
    1. Timotej Celes (SVK)
    2. Peter Novella (SVK)

    Junior ladies (only Slovak nationals)
    1. Michaela Bohunova (SVK)
    2. Miroslava Hrinakova (SVK)
    3. Lubica Kadlickova (SVK)
    4. Lenka Krsnakova (SVK)
    5. Dominika Murckova (SVK)
    6. Kristina Polackova (SVK)
    7. Lucia Polackova (SVK)
    8. Michaela Sabolcakova (SVK)
    9. Monika Simancikova (SVK)
    10. Ema Talapkova (SVK)
    11. Erika Vitekova (SVK)

    Junior ice dance
    1. Melanie Altinakisova & Martin Haba (CZE)
    2. Jana Cejkova & Alexandr Sinicyn (CZE)
    3. Katerina Konickova & Matej Lang (CZE)
    4. Gabriela Kubova & Dmitry Kiselev (CZE)
    5. Karolina Prochazkova & Michal Ceska (CZE)
    6. Baily Caroll & Peter Gerber (POL)
    7. Natalia Kaliszek & Michal Kaliszek (POL)
    8. Kinga Kucharska & Rafal Dawidowski (POL)
    9. Joanna Zajac & Damian Binkowski (POL)

    Novice ice dance
    1. Monika Harutunyan & Jaroslav Brtek (CZE)
    2. Kristina Keleova & Nikodem Kadlecek (SVK)

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    where is elena reitomairenov?(sorry, dont know how to spell her name.)

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    Ivana Reitmayerova is strugling with injuries the whole season so far. Has problems with her hip and now also with her back. She decided to skip the Nationals in the last minute, so no Europeans for her. The same goes for her brother Peter.

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    Any results yet?

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    Verner is ahead of Brezina, even though Verner fell. I also see even with a fall, Verner's TES is higher.


    1 Tomas VERNER
    CZE 74.83 36.69 39.14 7.88 7.50 7.88 7.88 8.00 1.00 #15
    2 Michal BREZINA
    CZE 71.26 34.88 36.38 7.50 6.94 7.25 7.38 7.31 0.00 #3
    3 Pavel KASKA
    CZE 61.18 28.69 32.49 6.56 6.06 6.56 6.50 6.81 0.00 #6
    4 Maciej CIEPLUCHA
    POL 59.69 28.18 31.51 6.38 5.81 6.38 6.38 6.56 0.00 #16
    5 Patrick MYZYK
    POL 56.33 26.38 29.95 6.19 5.63 6.13 5.94 6.06 0.00 #9
    6 Przemyslaw DOMANSKI
    POL 54.95 28.20 26.75 5.56 4.94 5.56 5.25 5.44 0.00 #7
    7 Jakub STROBL
    SVK 54.25 26.24 28.01 5.81 5.19 5.63 5.63 5.75 0.00 #10
    8 Kamil BIALAS
    POL 49.07 25.94 23.13 4.88 4.31 4.56 4.63 4.75 0.00 #8
    9 Jiri VASICEK
    CZE 48.56 21.68 26.88 5.44 5.19 5.31 5.44 5.50 0.00 #5
    10 Petr COUFAL
    CZE 46.12 20.68 26.44 5.38 4.94 5.31 5.25 5.56 1.00 #14
    11 Sebastian IWASAKI
    POL 44.77 21.58 23.19 4.88 4.38 4.81 4.56 4.56 0.00 #12
    12 Marco ZAKOURIL
    CZE 42.13 19.25 23.88 4.88 4.50 4.81 4.75 4.94 1.00 #11
    13 Edwin SIWKOVSKI
    POL 42.08 19.45 22.63 4.38 4.19 4.75 4.56 4.75 0.00 #1
    14 Kamil DYMOWSKI
    POL 40.96 20.02 20.94 4.38 3.94 4.25 4.06 4.31 0.00 #13
    15 Nicolas HEJZLAR
    CZE 39.50 20.62 18.88 4.13 3.50 3.81 3.75 3.69 0.00 #4
    16 Adam KLIMOVIC
    CZE 31.90 14.34 18.56 4.06 3.31 3.81 3.69 3.69 1.00 #2


    I don't know any of the Pairs, but here's the SP results

    1 Klara KADLECOVA / Petr BIDAR
    CZE 44.75 23.50 21.25 5.44 5.19 5.38 5.31 5.25 0.00 #5
    2 Magdalena KLATKA / Rados³aw CHRUSCINSKI
    POL 40.66 23.71 16.95 4.38 4.06 4.13 4.31 4.31 0.00 #1
    3 Alexandra HERBRÍKOVÁ / Alexander ZABOEV
    CZE 34.54 16.99 17.55 4.63 4.13 4.38 4.31 4.50 0.00 #2
    4 Anna SIEDLECKA / Jakub TYC
    POL 32.77 18.07 14.70 3.94 3.38 3.69 3.63 3.75 0.00 #3
    5 Aleksandra MALINKIEWICZ / Sebastian LOFEK
    POL 31.22 16.72 14.50 3.81 3.38 3.63 3.63 3.69 0.00 #4
    6 Magdalena JASKOLKA / Piotr SNOPEK
    POL 30.05 17.55 13.50 3.63 3.25 3.31 3.38 3.31 1.00 #6

    Ice Dance, I am surprised it is even close between Mysliveckova and Novak CZE and Visnova and Csolley SVK. In fact, M&N are ahead on PCS only. (probably blew the twizzles again, if I had to guess. And not as good Golden Waltz segments as earlier in the season).







    1 Lucie MYSLIVECKOVA / Matej NOVAK
    CZE 52.86 29.25 23.61 5.88 5.63 5.69 6.00 6.19 0.00 #4
    2 Nikola VISNOVA / Lukas CSOLLEY
    SVK 51.13 29.39 21.74 5.38 5.13 5.31 5.63 5.63 0.00 #1
    3 Alexandra ZVORYGINA / Maciej BERNADOWSKI
    POL 47.02 26.88 20.14 5.06 4.69 4.88 5.25 5.19 0.00 #3
    4 Justyna PLUTOWSKA / Dawid PIETRZYÑSKI
    POL 35.77 18.72 17.05 4.44 4.13 4.19 4.44 4.13 0.00 #2

    Ladies SP has not been skated yet.

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    Complete results from Day 1 can be found here:

    http://www.kraso.sk/wp-content/uploa...html/index.htm

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    Verner fell on a spin, so not a huge point loss and that's probably why his TES is ahead of Brezina. All his jumps were landed nicely (not sure if he got "e" on his flip or not though), and Michal stepped out of the 3a and only did 3f-2t as his combo so it makes sense his TES would be lower.

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    the freeskates were today, right? Why aren't the results up yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nena View Post
    the freeskates were today, right? Why aren't the results up yet?
    http://www.sportovninoviny.cz/zpravy...tm_medium=feed

    Muži: 1. Verner 221,20, 2. Březina 202,76, 3. Kaška 184,53, ...6. Coufal 158,44, 8. Vašíček (všichni ČR) 146,42.

    So I think that means Verner won, but he had some mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverlake22 View Post
    http://www.sportovninoviny.cz/zpravy...tm_medium=feed

    Muži: 1. Verner 221,20, 2. Březina 202,76, 3. Kaška 184,53, ...6. Coufal 158,44, 8. Vašíček (všichni ČR) 146,42.

    So I think that means Verner won, but he had some mistakes.
    The protocols are posted within the result page, which has the link here in this thread a few messages earlier:

    Those who complained why Verner doesn't do a quad anymore, you can now calm down, he did here, and fell on it, and also fell on his flip and got a negative GOE on his second axel.
    Brezina is really struggling, post injury, fell on a 3 axel, doubled a flip and singled a lutz.

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    LOL falling on a quad in nationals is just what Lysacek did last year! He's more Lysacek than ever!!! LOL. That is just a joke. I mean good luck to him at Euros (but not really if he does Lysacek's layout almost exactly again like he did at Cup of Russia)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmyers View Post
    LOL falling on a quad in nationals is just what Lysacek did last year! He's more Lysacek than ever!!! LOL. That is just a joke. I mean good luck to him at Euros (but not really if he does Lysacek's layout almost exactly again like he did at Cup of Russia)!
    He landed a nice quad in the warmup before the FS at the GPF, so I think he still has it. The rink the nationals was held at was also reportedly freezing and caused a lot of skaters to struggle, so none of this seems too surprising to me. Keep in mind he was in Beijing just last week, and idk if he went to Canada in between or not but he was probably jetlag regardless. I think Tomas and Michal probably both suffered from the rink conditions, travel, and jetlag - now they have time to rest and be in top shape for Euros!

    Also, looking at the protocols, it seems like Tomas didn't give his all at this competition and was just doing enough to win. I mean he only did 2 combos and he didn't do any 3 jump combos either, on top of the 2 falls and doubling the salchow, so the 146 score isn't that concerning. He could have added about 5 points by simply adding a 3 jump combo, and usually his salchow is beautiful and his flip consistently landed. Michal's protocol also makes it seem like he didn't put it all out there and was just trying to get his legs back. He is capable of much better, and I bet at Euros they will not make such silly mistakes when medals are on the line and something like leaving out a 3 jump combo could make a big difference.
    Last edited by silverlake22; 12-19-2010 at 10:48 PM.

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    It does look like Verner still has a quad. The tech people gave him credit for a full rotation of it and two judges gave him negative twos instead of threes so maybe he landed it and then slipped. I haven't seen the video of it yet but based on what previous -2's have meant I guessed that. It definitely seems like he wants to do it and I hope for his sake that he does it because of that fact.

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