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Does anybody know where I can find a complete base values for all the jumps (double, triple, and under rotated jumps too)? Thanks
http://www.isu.org/vsite/vnavsite/page/directory/0,10853,4844-185235-202457-nav-list,00.html
Click on ISU Communication 1611.
Does anyone know the background of how the base values were arrived at?
It figures. Just keep it secret with no input by skaters.The ruminations of the committee that came up with the original scale of values (headed by David Dore, I believe) were never made public. As far as I can tell they just picked an arbitrary number, 4.0 points, for a triple toe loop and went up by half-point increments from there: 3S = 4.5, 3Lo = 5.0, 3F = 5.5, 3Lz = 6.0.
When skaters opinions are not taken into account, they have to meet the standards of the non-skating Officials rather than the Officials understanding the difficulties from first hand skaters.The latest revision made an attempt at adjusting these values to reflect the actual relative difficulties of these jumps. For instance, 3S and 3T are both about the same difficulty, and some skaters find the 3S easier. On the other hand, the 3Lz is much more difficult than the 3F, so there should be a bigger gap between these jumps.
How can one not agree? The air rotations replaced barrel jumping with its sport-like adding barrels.People who have studied this from a mathematical viewpoint usually argue like this. As the number of revolutions goes up the difficulty of the element increases exponentially.
Fascinating read!! Some well thought out points; some not. Are any competitive skaters on that Committee? I'm all for current and former competitive skaters running their destiny in Sports.The International Coaches' Committee that Dr. George Rossano is associated with came up with a scoring system based on this principle (scroll down to the bottom):
http://www.iceskatingintnl.com/current/content/coach proposals for 2010.htm