With the Japanese Nationals having just been completed I was once again alerted to the fact that many skaters do not have a true lutz. Kanako and Mao take off from a clear inside edge and Akiko's is only slightly better. Even on the men's - Daisuke and Oda seem to take off from only slight outside edges. Looks like heaps of girls from the USA do it too - maybe it has to do with the fact that many were brought up in the 6.0 era where flutzing was not as harshly punished, or maybe it has to do with coaching.
Please note: this isn't a thread to bash Japanese skaters, as I now realise that many skaters from many countries have issues as Miki88 kindly pointed out. My apologies for any misunderstandings.
To the moderators, please change the title of this thread so as to not offend anyone.
Last edited by Marrymeyunakim; 12-28-2010 at 11:50 AM.
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Flutzing is a problem in every country. My guess? Triple lutzes are just plain hard.
I understand that Mao took the 3lutz out of her programs for a while though because she kept getting edge calls on them. I thought she was supposed to be trying to fix that this year. Anyone have any insight on how that quest is going?
I am pretty sure that flutzing has also been in the history of American ladies. (Two previous Olympic Champions flutzed)
Originally Posted by Layfan
Tons of skaters flutz, nationality has little do with it.
Most of the American skaters have edge issues as well: Zhang, Gao, Nagasu, Wagner all flutz; Zawazki has a lip.
Leonova, Sotnikova, Makarova all have had edge calls internationally in the past on their lutzes; Tuktamysheva, Agafonova and Shelepen on their flips.
This strikes me as a thread to try and bash Japanese skaters with little actual basis.
Last edited by oleada; 12-28-2010 at 11:09 AM.
If you think this was a thread to bash Japanese skaters, you're wrong. Plain and simple.
Originally Posted by oleada
That said, yes it does seem like tonnes of skaters flutz... just when you consider Japan as a dominant nation in skating with some of its brightest stars having technical issues on this one jump, it may be because there are issues I am unaware of. And, with all due respect, you've given examples of a lot of junior skaters who have not accomplished nearly as much as the likes of Mao and Takahashi, who are all-time greats in my book.
Yet many of its skaters have great triple loops. For Mao, it's her money jump and it hardly ever fails her. Why?
Last edited by Marrymeyunakim; 12-28-2010 at 11:25 AM.