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    Ladies prospects

    ALL SKATERS must reach a minimal TES score for both the SP and the FS. They must be in a qualified ISU competition in 2009-2010 or 2010-11 but can be earned on separate competitions. For the ladies that is 15.00 in the SP and 25 in the FS. This is more for the lower ranked skaters.

    The ISU has put in a qualifying round, but not all have to skate it. The federations will be given one direct entry into the SP for each skate they had in the Top 18 in last year's Worlds. All other entries will have to qualify for the final 12 spots for a total of 30 entries.

    DIRECTLY QUALIFIED FOR THE SHORT PROGRAM (direct entries are given to federations who had top 18 skaters from previous Worlds)

    AUS 1
    CAN 1 Cynthia Phaneuf
    CHN 1
    FIN 1 Kiira Korpi (likely)
    GBR 1 Jenna McCorkell
    GER 1
    GEO 1 Elene Gedevanishvili
    HUN 1
    ITA 1 Carolina Kostner
    JPN 1 Miki Ando
    JPN 2 Mao Asada
    JPN 3 Kanako Murakami
    KOR 1 Yu-Na Kim
    SWE 1 Joshi Helgesson
    RUS 1 Alena Leonova
    RUS 2 Ksenia Makarova
    USA 1 Alissa Czisny
    USA 2 Rachael Flatt

    (Breakdown of direct entries: 3 JPN; 2 USA; 2 RUS making up 7 of the entries. 11 more federations have one direct entry).

    Final 12 spots qualified via qualifying round (see below).
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    25.
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    29.
    30.

    QUALIFYING ROUND ENTRIES:

    MULTIPLE-SKATER NATIONS:
    The following second (or third) skaters from these countries will have to do a QR because there was no skater competing in that spot last year or a skater from that country failed to break into the top 18. The skater with the lower World Standing will be the one who will have to skate the qualifying round.

    Here are the countries with skaters who will have to skate in the QR.

    CAN 2 Myrianne Samson
    FIN 2 Beate Papp (2nd at Nationals) or Laura Lepisto* if she recovers from injury.
    ITA 2 Valentina Marchei (second at Nationals)
    KOR 2 Min-Jung Kwak (third at nationals but other skaters not age eligible)
    SWE 2 Viktoria Helgesson**

    * FINLAND NOTE: Ironically though it was Kiira (by placing 19th in last year's Worlds) that caused the necessity of QR, Laura (despite being the reigning bronze medalist) currently has the lower WS thanks to Kiira's success on the GP circuit.
    ** SWEDISH NOTE: Yes Viktoria is the current National champion and was the one who earned the second spot in the first place. But she has lower WS than her sister Joshi, who has done relatively well on the GP circuit.

    OTHER COUNTRIES LIKELY TO ENTER:
    SWI 1 - Bettina Heim
    ESP 1 - Sonia Lafuente
    EST 1 - Elena Glebova

    I will add other countries who will have a skater in the QR as I see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. P View Post
    ALL SKATERS must reach a minimal TES score for both the SP and the FS. They must be in a qualified ISU competition in 2009-2010 or 2010-11 but can be earned on separate competitions. For the ladies that is 15.00 in the SP and 25 in the FS. This is more for the lower ranked skaters.

    The ISU has put in a qualifying round, but not all have to skate it. The federations will be given one direct entry into the SP for each skate they had in the Top 18 in last year's Worlds. All other entries will have to qualify for the final 12 spots for a total of 30 entries.

    DIRECTLY QUALIFIED FOR THE SHORT PROGRAM (direct entries are given to federations who had top 18 skaters from previous Worlds)

    AUS 1
    CAN 1
    CHN 1
    FIN 1 Kiira Korpi (likely)
    GBR 1 Jenna McCorkell
    GER 1
    GEO 1 Elene Gedevanishvili
    HUN 1
    ITA 1 Carolina Kostner
    JPN 1 Miki Ando
    JPN 2 Mao Asada
    JPN 3 Kanako Murakami
    KOR 1 Yu-Na Kim
    SWE 1 Joshi Helgesson
    RUS 1 Alena Leonova
    RUS 2 Ksenia Makarova
    USA 1
    USA 2

    (Breakdown of direct entries: 3 JPN; 2 USA; 2 RUS making up 7 of the entries. 11 more federations have one direct entry).

    Final 12 spots qualified via qualifying round (see below).
    19.
    20.
    21.
    22.
    23.
    24.
    25.
    26.
    27.
    28.
    29.
    30.

    QUALIFYING ROUND ENTRIES:

    MULTIPLE-SKATER NATIONS:
    The following second (or third) skaters from these countries will have to do a QR because there was no skater competing in that spot last year or a skater from that country failed to break into the top 18. The skater with the lower World Standing will be the one who will have to skate the qualifying round.

    Here are the countries with skaters who will have to skate in the QR.

    CAN 2
    FIN 2 Beate Papp (2nd at Nationals) or Laura Lepisto* if she recovers from injury.
    ITA 2 Valentina Marchei (second at Nationals)
    KOR 2
    SWE 2 Viktoria Helgesson**

    * FINLAND NOTE: Ironically though it was Kiira (by placing 19th in last year's Worlds) that caused the necessity of QR, Laura (despite being the reigning bronze medalist) currently has the lower WS thanks to Kiira's success on the GP circuit.
    ** SWEDISH NOTE: Yes Viktoria is the current National champion and was the one who earned the second spot in the first place. But she has lower WS than her sister Joshi, who has done relatively well on the GP circuit.

    OTHER COUNTRIES LIKELY TO ENTER:
    SWI 1 - Sarah Meier
    ESP 1 - Sonia Lafuente
    EST 1 - Elena Glebova

    I will add other countries who will have a skater in the QR as I see it.
    Umm... I think that the fun "Alternative ways to determine Worlds roster" is a fun hypothetical, not what the ISU will actually use.

    Keep the hypothetical in that thread, to prevent confusion. This sub-forum should be about the actual 2011 World champs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SerpentineSteps View Post
    Umm... I think that the fun "Alternative ways to determine Worlds roster" is a fun hypothetical, not what the ISU will actually use.

    Keep the hypothetical in that thread, to prevent confusion. This sub-forum should be about the actual 2011 World champs.
    This is not a hypothetical! These are the new rules passed by the ISU during it's congress last summer. I can see the confusion as I ended up getting into the actual rules in the hypthetical methods thread.


    ETA: The new rules can be found in the ISU Special Regulations & Technical Rules Singles & Pair Skating and Ice Dance 2010, Section 378.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. P View Post
    This is not a hypothetical! These are the new rules passed by the ISU during it's congress last summer. I can see the confusion as I ended up getting into the actual rules in the hypthetical methods thread.


    ETA: The new rules can be found in the ISU Special Regulations & Technical Rules Singles & Pair Skating and Ice Dance 2010, Section 378.
    Thank you for compiling this list along with your excellent explanation of the ISU rules It's very informative to me.

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    Interesting thread, but a little confusing for me I admit.

    Anyhow, if this thread is about potential placings as well, I just wanted to say that I see Yuna Kim as the one to beat, simply because she has it all ~ jumps, presentation, beauty, speed, consistency, etc. ~ all this times 10. But my hope is that Mirai Nagasu can finally put the USA on the map, she has everything that Yuna has imho except jumps & consistency, Mirai's jumps are not as high nor are they all fully rotated, also Mirai doesn't have 3/3 combos., which will hurt her. Still, she is America's best hope imho because what she does have is flexibility, presentation times 10, tall lean ballerina body, joy, speed, spins, spirals, ad infinitum! And of course Mao Asada is always a threat, she & Mirai are on the same level imho, but Mao has the edge in technical difficulty (the 3axel!), and they tie on presentation imho, though Mirai is an extrovert whereas Mao is an introvert, I love them both.

    But Miki Ando looks to beat them both, lol. :D Why? Well because Miki has consistency & most importantly more difficulty ~ big high fully rotated triple jumps and 3/3 combos. for good measure, though the second jump is usually underrotated, unlike Yuna Kim, whom never underrotates her jumps.

    Still, it's wide open because when Carolina Kostner is on she's just as good as Yuna Kim, with even faster speed out of all the ladies competing! Then of course there are the Finnish gals, and the third Japanese skater whom is always a threat as well.

    This looks to be an exciting Worlds, but if everybody skates their best without errors or mistakes, I would have it Yuna Kim in first place by a mile, Mao second, Mirai/Carolina/Finnish gal third.

    That said, I just hope nobody gets injured or has to drop out; the best competitions are when everybody skates their best and you win! (:^)

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    In what alternate universe is Costner as good as Kim when she's on top of her game?

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