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Kinga

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I think that coach and choreographer change could be beneficial for Rachael. She is musical and has potential, someone just has to 'uncover' her personality. I would love to see her with Yuka Sato!
 

silverlake22

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I think that coach and choreographer change could be beneficial for Rachael. She is musical and has potential, someone just has to 'uncover' her personality. I would love to see her with Yuka Sato!

Yuka Sato = the miracle worker

or so it seems :)
 

Layfan

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Btw, just wanted to add that I'm not particularly a fan of Rachel's skating - just as I am not a fan of Sarah Hughes.

Regardless, I was happy for Sarah when she won the Olympic Gold Medal because she was the best of that night - before that she was also just a solid consistent skater and had a great layback, but no particular gushing was coming from the commentators over her star quality.

Everyone has their favorites and/or doesn't 'get' what someone else sees in a skater. However, they all deserve some respect for their efforts in reaching the top of their sport - even without finishing 1st, it's quite an acheivement to get to Nationals. I, too , have wondered why certain skaters continue to compete after they are very apparently out of medal contention for several years (i.e. Amber Corwin), but it's not as though they didn't earn their spot at Nationals. Same for all the people who thought Kwan should've retired to give others a chance - everyone has a chance, they just had to beat her.

Very well said - all of it. I'd only add that in Rachael's case she actually still is in medal contention - just won two international silvers in fact - so why on Earth would she quit? She's been no less in the mix for a world medal than others like Kiira Korpi and Akiko Suzuki who are dark horses but could potentially medal. Rachael has her fans. Sometimes, I think others want her to quit because she's a constant threat to their favorites, what with her (usually) consistent jumps.
 

nubka

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As Olympia mentioned - Paul Wylie was one of those "almosts" until "finally making it" in Albertville... when so many went so far as to say he didn't belong on the team at all.

Rudy Galindo was also one of those skaters that should have just "hung it up" before he "made it" in 1996.

Well, Rachael did "make it" last year at Nationals. Maybe that will be the high point for her skating career. I don't consider her to be a late bloomer.
 

Ladskater

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I wonder if Rachael ever read this what she would think!! I am sure she continues to compete because she wants to. No she is not a "phenom" in the skating world by any means, but she is a hard worker and it has paid. Hard work is what figure skating is all about and many skaters have made it to the top through their diligence - including skaters such as Rachael Flatt and Joannie Rochette.
 

iluvtodd

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I wonder if Rachael ever read this what she would think!! I am sure she continues to compete because she wants to. No she is not a "phenom" in the skating world by any means, but she is a hard worker and it has paid. Hard work is what figure skating is all about and many skaters have made it to the top through their diligence - including skaters such as Rachael Flatt and Joannie Rochette.

Amen!
 

Kinga

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Yuka Sato = the miracle worker

or so it seems :)

I do not claim that she is miracle worker, I just think that coach change would be good for Racheal, and Yuka is one of the choices I thought of, since she seems to understand the skaters needs and feel which style would fit them. Of course, she is not the only option.
 

heyang

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I wonder if Rachael ever read this what she would think!! I am sure she continues to compete because she wants to. No she is not a "phenom" in the skating world by any means, but she is a hard worker and it has paid. Hard work is what figure skating is all about and many skaters have made it to the top through their diligence - including skaters such as Rachael Flatt and Joannie Rochette.

So very true. We've often discussed the natural gifts of Nicole Bobek and Christopher Bowman that were wasted. Both were natural skaters and performers - however, their lack of work ethic and lack of maturity made them unreliable on many levels. Both lost their way. Fortunately, Bobek seems to be working to get her life back on track.

We also have highly successful skaters who weren't as talented, but worked harder. Kristi Yamaguchi, as per her coach Kristy Ness, was not a natural jumper. Her work ethic is what made her a successful jumper.
 

aftertherain

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We also have highly successful skaters who weren't as talented, but worked harder. Kristi Yamaguchi, as per her coach Kristy Ness, was not a natural jumper. Her work ethic is what made her a successful jumper.

AND, to add to that, she had club feet. So it's amazing she could walk properly, let alone do the triple lutz-triple toe combination. Well, there was therapy and surgery involved of course, but i'm just saying ...
 
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I just watched Rachael do a high-spirited number on the NBC program spotlighting skaters and gymnasts. (Alas, I missed most of the rest of the broadcast.) She was very appealing to watch, and I was reminded of Nadine's warm reaction on seeing Rachael skate live. Rachael seems very fluid, which I like, and she has a fine spread eagle (both inside and outside) and a rather nice Ina Bauer. (A better backbend than Michelle, certainly! And you know that Michelle is at the top of my "life list.") There's no reason to give up on her, and certainly no reason for her to give up on her career.


One more thought: I also love Alissa, and I think her smile is a national treasure, but you know what? Rachael's smile is lovely as well--she musters up quite a bit of wattage with it when the music gets going.
 
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jenaj

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I just watched Rachael do a high-spirited number on the NBC program spotlighting skaters and gymnasts. (Alas, I missed most of the rest of the broadcast.) She was very appealing to watch, and I was reminded of Nadine's warm reaction on seeing Rachael skate live. Rachael seems very fluid, which I like, and she has a fine spread eagle (both inside and outside) and a rather nice Ina Bauer. (A better backbend than Michelle, certainly! And you know that Michelle is at the top of my "life list.") There's no reason to give up on her, and certainly no reason for her to give up on her career.

And she ditched the OTB tights so we could see her WHITE BOOTS! A huge step in the right direction for Rachael.
 

Poodlepal

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I agree 100% about Rachael's performance on the gymnastics show! She was like a different skater.

Rachael needs to do very bouncy, youthful programs. I get the impression that she's trying to force herself into a "delicate, graceful, tasteful, ballerina" mode that Alissa, YuNa and Mirai fit perfectly, but is completely wrong for Rachael. She's a great skater, but she's not delicate or balletic. She seems much less awkward with the faster music, and if she's skating slowly--well, it was covered up. Of course, she'd have to have wordless music and do the harder jumps, but I was also impressed.
 

R.D.

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Everyone has their own style.

Flatt plays the cheerful type MUCH better than the somber type.
 

Layfan

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the superstitious person in me is starting to believe Rachael is going to be awesome at nationals thanks to this thread. :)
 

Tonichelle

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you know, in dog mushing, the only reason fans want a musher to retire is because they're the dominant musher and are too cocky... puts things into perspective for me...
 
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you know, in dog mushing, the only reason fans want a musher to retire is because they're the dominant musher and are too cocky... puts things into perspective for me...

OT, but if you are a champion musher, does that mean that you are really good at it, or does it mean that you have the best dogs?
 

Tonichelle

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OT, but if you are a champion musher, does that mean that you are really good at it, or does it mean that you have the best dogs?

That's the lifelong debate... basically it boils down to a combination of both. You have to have a good set of dogs, but there isn't just one bloodline that all sled dogs have to have... and then you have to have a musher who not only knows what they're doing but speaks the sled dog language. A Happy Kennel is going to be far more successful than a kennel that's unhappy. You want a team that wants and loves to run. Some mushers try to force it, and they either scratch or never make it to the Iditarod... while others year in and year out see success on the trail and have a following and a "name" because they know their dogs, have trained them correctly and don't force anything.

So, I guess, the musher is the coach, and it's still up to the dogs to see her through... but it's mroe than just a coach at teh boards or sidelines... they have to be in shape, and are their own special breed of human.
 
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