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    Ladies Free Skate and Results + GPF Finalists

    From Icecalc at ISU:

    LADIES FREE SKATE:

    Pl. Name Nation TSS= TES+ TCS+ SS TR PE CH IN Deduction
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    1 Fumie SUGURI JPN 107.58 50.70 56.88 7.30 6.95 7.10 7.05 7.15 0.00 #6
    2 Elena LIASHENKO UKR 104.94 46.22 58.72 7.30 7.25 7.20 7.45 7.50 0.00 #9
    3 Yoshie ONDA JPN 98.04 49.88 48.16 6.55 5.80 5.90 5.90 5.95 0.00 #8
    4 Susanna POYKIO FIN 96.96 50.00 46.96 6.05 5.55 5.90 5.90 5.95 0.00 #5
    5 Jennifer KIRK USA 88.72 39.76 48.96 6.20 5.90 6.25 6.10 6.15 0.00 #10
    6 Yukina OTA JPN 86.07 40.79 45.28 5.60 5.40 5.75 5.70 5.85 0.00 #2
    7 Anne Sophie CALVEZ FRA 83.39 43.71 39.68 5.15 4.60 4.75 5.10 5.20 0.00 #4
    8 Michelle CURRIE CAN 82.64 42.80 39.84 5.15 4.80 5.00 5.15 4.80 0.00 #1
    9 Dan FANG CHN 81.74 43.50 38.24 5.00 4.30 4.90 4.75 4.95 0.00 #3
    10 Diana POTH HUN 78.13 35.17 42.96 5.55 5.00 5.35 5.45 5.50 0.00 #7

    Wow.

    Fumie wins her first GP competition, I believe . Congratulations to Fumie, Elena, and Yoshie for medaling and all making the GPF as well as to Julia Sebestian who makes it to the final as well.

    for Jenny. She, I think, will be the 1st Alternate, though. We'll see her at Nationals and I hope she will rebound there and have a good competition.


    FINAL COMBINED RESULTS

    Pl. Name Nation Total Score SP FS
    1 Fumie SUGURI JPN 165.52 2 1
    2 Elena LIASHENKO UKR 163.14 1 2
    3 Yoshie ONDA JPN 154.42 3 3
    4 Susanna POYKIO FIN 147.04 6 4
    5 Jennifer KIRK USA 140.08 5 5
    6 Yukina OTA JPN 133.79 7 6
    7 Diana POTH HUN 130.37 4 10
    8 Anne Sophie CALVEZ FRA 125.19 9 7
    9 Dan FANG CHN 123.74 8 9
    10 Michelle CURRIE CAN 123.70 10 8


    The 6 Ladies' Finalists for the GPF:

    1. Sasha Cohen [USA]- 24
    2. Elena Liashenko [UKR]- 21
    3. Fumie Suguri [JPN]- 19
    4. Shizuka Arakawa [JPN]- 18
    5. Yoshie Honda [JPN]- 16
    6. Julia Sebestian [HUN]- 14

    Congrats to these ladies! Mens to go...we'll see what happens there.

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    Wow! I don't think many could expect those 6 for GPF.

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    Yes, Ptchka - Picking the top 6 for the GP Finals is not easy. It's much easier to pick the top 3 for various Nats.

    So in Pairs we have 3 Chinese; in Ladies we have 3 Japanese. Veeeeery interesting.

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    Interesting final, and it's the first time without a Russian.

    Sasha looks like she will win easily, based on the other competitors consistency and/or faults.

    Elena Liashenko- uhh.. I think she only won two events because her competitors needed...consistency. I still think she's a great skater though.

    Fumie Suguri- needs consistency

    Shizuka Arakawa-a bit more of consistency and a bit more artistry.

    Yoshie Onda -artistry

    Julia Sebestyen -she needs to land her BIG jumps.

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    Interesting final, and it's the first time without a Russian.
    Interesting. Does anyone else here wish we were still under the ordinal system for the GP? Now that there might not be any bloc judging (for lack of Eastern European skaters to challenge Cohen), it'd be interesting to see how the ordinals fall. I wonder if we'd still see 5-4 splits of the judges' votes. This situation reminds me of 1992 and 1995 when there weren't any strong Russian ladies' competitors at Worlds and the results were less controversial.

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    are there still two LP's? If so, I wouldn't crown Cohen the winner just yet.

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    I recall that they removed the 2nd LP. Trust me, I'm not Sasha's biggest supporter or fan and I'd be happy to see Fumie or Shizuka win, but everyone elses skating makes me believe Sasha will win.

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    Note that in the GPF we have two distinct 'teams' of skaters:

    Team A: Cohen, Arakawa, Sebestyen - competed against each other at SA, SC and Lalique [Sebestyen SC and Lalique].

    Team B: Liashenko, Suguri, Onda - competed against each other at Cup of China and NHK.

    No one from Team B ever faced any of the Team A skaters. The top scores of the top Team B skaters match only Sebestyen, and do not approach those of Arakawa and Cohen.

    Even if there were two FS in the GPF, I can't see that Cohen would lose to any of the Team B skaters, and probably not even to Arakawa.

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    I agree it's Cohen's to lose. She's got the whol package. She just needs to keep her consistency.

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    I am very sad for Jenny I was so hoping she would be able to grab a higher standing although this was pretty darn good. I just hope she keeps skating better and better. Best of luck to her at Nats!

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    Yay! Fumie, Shizuka, and Yoshie made it!!!!!!!!!:D

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    Originally posted by moyesii
    Interesting. Does anyone else here wish we were still under the ordinal system for the GP? Now that there might not be any bloc judging (for lack of Eastern European skaters to challenge Cohen), it'd be interesting to see how the ordinals fall. I wonder if we'd still see 5-4 splits of the judges' votes. This situation reminds me of 1992 and 1995 when there weren't any strong Russian ladies' competitors at Worlds and the results were less controversial.
    What? I don't know when there has been block judging in the past, but whatever. I guess the fact that Tatiana Malinina won the GPF over Butyrskaya in 1999 just left your heard .

    I absolutely hate it when one insinuates there is an eastern block, referring to "unfairness," but totally disregards the possibility that there may be a western block as well.

    Goooooooo objectivity! Wait, it wasn't used here...................

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    Speeking of sinister conspiracies...I don't see anything that has happened in the season yet that would push Sasha to do anything more in the Grand Prix final than she has done so far. She did, however, tweak her spiral sequence in between Skate canada and Trophee Lalique, adding an extra change of edge, to get it up to a level three. As evidenced by the results, Sasha has played the CoP perfectly.

    Assuming that she wins the GP final, will she up the ante in anticipation of a showdown with Michelle? Will she put in a triple/triple (much prized by the ordinal system, a little less so by the CoP) before Nationals, just in case Michelle has something up her sleeve? Do skaters send spies into each others' camps to try to find out what they are intending?

    Mathman

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    Yes, thvudragon, there's absolutely no such thing as bloc judging. It doesn't exist. We just say it does to explain all the 5-4 splits in the judging panels in the past.

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    I think the conspiracy theories that 6-9 countries who are slavic speaking made the conspiracy more of a cultural subjectivity and not a political one. As to the West conspiracy, well, I just don't see anyone aligning themselves with the Americans. Americans are not exactly the most loveable people in the world, imo. And in SLC, a Canadian Pair team with French sounding names did not for one minute influence the French judge or the French Federation. Maybe, the Danes might go along with a Norwegian, although I doubt that, too. No there is no conspiracy in the West culturally and certainly not linguistically.

    I must say, the way the CoP is set up, block judging, if it exists, will take a step backwards. Of the 11 judges randomly chosen, only 9 will actually be scoring. Of the 9, the high and low scoring judges will be dropped. So the 'bloc' theory, while not perfect, certainly will be impeded by the new system.

    BTW, those numbers are mine. I am not sure of the number of judges but the method is correct, I believe.

    Joe

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