Can someone please explain to me why Mishin always has his guys skating costumes have some color of pink in them?
Can someone please explain to me why Mishin always has his guys skating costumes have some color of pink in them?
did plush or even yag had anything with pink in the costume and has escaped my collection?
I think Lutai had something with pink last year.
Is that the difference between 6.0 and CoP, the transitions? If a program has transitions but no quad jumps, is that a CoP program?Originally Posted by Jaana
LOL, of course not! I´m surprised that there still are skating fans, who apparently don´t understand the difference between a 6.0 and a CoP programme....Is that the difference between 6.0 and CoP, the transitions? If a program has transitions but no quad jumps, is that a CoP program?My understanding is that a succesful CoP programme is a quality programme in various areas. A quad is great, but it is still just one element, although it of course gives a high score, if successful.
Last edited by Jaana; 01-18-2011 at 02:04 PM.
He looked so handsome in his pink shirt that some seniorita threw him a rose.did plush or even yag had anything with pink in the costume and has escaped my collection?
http://www.artistonice.com/imagesprivate/Evgeniros.jpg
Lol that's a great pic...so much so that I had to spit the soda I was drinking out of my mouth. Yes Lutai did have pink in his costume at Skate America in 2009. I don't remember if Yags or Plushy every did. Maybe they wore pink fruit of the looms.
Here is a link to plushy...can't tell if it's red or pink...either way it's the same color family.
http://www.kingonice.com/pmc-2004-2005.htm
http://www.kingonice.com/pmc-2000-2001.htm
Last edited by sillylionlove; 01-18-2011 at 02:49 PM.
Part of the Mishin formula? Jumps + pink + bad hair = medal
I ve never seen the rose pic in my life, where do you find them? The rose seems too big and the nose chopped.
MAthman did you photoshop this?
Don't forget the gloves, they always wear gloves.
I actually met Mishin at 2009 Skate America. I should have asked him about this.
The one who beat Artur at Nationals must be going by the same Mishin/Plushenko formula. Pretty outdated.
Apparently understanding the difference between 6.0 and CoP was not my issue here. What I don't understand was what was the extra importance of transitions? You made it seems that transition was extremely important and more important than a quad jump.LOL, of course not! I´m surprised that there still are skating fans, who apparently don´t understand the difference between a 6.0 and a CoP programme....
The maxmum transition score one could get is 10. Even the best transitional skater Patrick Chan has never ever gotten 10 for it (or 10 on any segment for any skaters). A quad jump, even though it's just one element, if it's sucessfully executed, is 10.30 in base value alone. Not to consider that there are GOEs on top of it if executed well. So which one is more important in CoP?
The transition score, after the multiplier.The maxmum transition score one could get is 10. Even the best transitional skater Patrick Chan has never ever gotten 10 for it (or 10 on any segment for any skaters). A quad jump, even though it's just one element, if it's sucessfully executed, is 10.30 in base value alone. Not to consider that there are GOEs on top of it if executed well. So which one is more important in CoP?
A CoP programme is the sum of different elements and also of PCS. Let´s not forget that Lysacek won over Plushenko in technical elements even though Plushenko had a quad. Yeah, I know that a quad gives now a bit more points.... Although a skater is able to jump a quad, it is important that every element of the programme is well executed. Choreography, transitions and the rest of PCS is important, too, because from everything a skater picks up points. Maybe the difference to other skaters is not that big in various sections, but as a sum they become important, especially if a competition is close.Apparently understanding the difference between 6.0 and CoP was not my issue here. What I don't understand was what was the extra importance of transitions? You made it seems that transition was extremely important and more important than a quad jump.
The maxmum transition score one could get is 10. Even the best transitional skater Patrick Chan has never ever gotten 10 for it (or 10 on any segment for any skaters). A quad jump, even though it's just one element, if it's sucessfully executed, is 10.30 in base value alone. Not to consider that there are GOEs on top of it if executed well. So which one is more important in CoP?
In Gachinski´s case I think it is of course important for him to have the quad but also good programmes are important. Now it seems to me that it is the same as with Plushenko, that the programme does not matter, if a skater has a quad, LOL. From 2006 Olympics Plushenko´s freeskate served as an example of a bad CoP programme, and I think that the 2010 one will very well serve as such also, LOL. Gachinski is a talented young skater, I would want him to have the best in everything that matters in judging.
Last edited by Jaana; 01-19-2011 at 03:26 AM.
at least Plushenko's Olympic Programs serve at something...
I´m sure Gachinski will be heartbroken if ISU use his programs as example of bad COP program AFTER they give him the gold medal!
Last edited by ciocio; 01-19-2011 at 05:53 AM.
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