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    The Witt rule is pretty tame. Some day I'm going to give a performance wherein my entire costume will come off and I'll be in only a jockstrap for my ending pose. It will be too late for the referee to stop my music and interrupt the program at that point. Hah! I'll take the minor costume deduction in return for the legion of appreciative spectators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaana View Post
    I don´t remember Carrol saying anything like that at all, it is not his style, IMO. On the other hand I do remember ISU president in an interview calling Plushenko a one trick pony based on Plushenko´s unsportmanlike comments to press regarding the sp results.
    Unfortunately I have good memory.. Well about the article at least and even who commented on it. Something along the lines that it is figure skating and not figure jumping, and he was not impressed by his comeback or jumps. And the whole package. It was of last February, i would spare myself from searching the olympic archives.

    Yes ISu president to comment while a competition was running was very thoughtful of him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebonnet View Post
    I'm not mad if your comment's including me. But like I said, it does bring back the memories. It's like Lysacek fans flash his medal and glory in your face. Why couldn't people who are not so keen about this talk about it?
    who's flashing anything in anyone's face? four years ago Evgeny was revelling in his Olympic Glory - as were his fans. Eight years ago it was Yagudin.

    just like four years ago Shizuka and her supporters were still celebrating, and 8 years ago it was those of us who were fans of Sarah Hughes.

    Now it's time for Evan, and Shen and Zhao, and Tessa & Scott, and Yuna Kim's fans to see the rewards. America's just happy to have an Olympic champion so they gave Evan a title. Big deal. No one's gloating.

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    Olympic champion so they gave Evan a title. Big deal. No one's gloating.

    you are right no one is gloating, it is nice he won, but who cares. but did he really win it the right way. the problem with the past OGM is that very few won it the right way and any olympic sports. So American is ho-hum, we think they all are cheaters and none won it the right way (OGM ) anyway due to unfair judging, steriods, drugs, hyped up suits and than the egos follow. who care about OGM with HUGH egos if they didn't win the right way.Congrats get your medal and money, which you already have by winnnig things prior to the olympics. Character matters more in real life. not ego's medals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fairly4 View Post
    but did he really win it the right way.
    He and his team put together a program that maximized his points. he had a program catered to the rules. So yes I think he did it the "right way".

    the problem with the past OGM is that very few won it the right way and any olympic sports. So American is ho-hum, we think they all are cheaters and none won it the right way (OGM ) anyway due to unfair judging, steriods, drugs, hyped up suits and than the egos follow.
    Do Americans really think this way? Because, honestly, I don't recall being in any break room or classroom where all the talk was about how so and so cheated to win. Granted on figure skating boards there's the whole judging scandal every time you turn around, but the main complaints are on the judges, not the athletes themselves. As for steroids, they're not allowed in Olympic competition - at least not in figure skating - and they are drug tested after both portions of the competition. Egos - there's an interesting point for you to make. What person doesn't have an ego of some kind? I think Evan did very well in masking his ego this time around... it still rears its ugly head on occassion, but no worse than that of Plushenko's egotism or Chan's... in fact Evan was pretty subdued in comparison.


    maybe figure skating isn't the right medium for you if it makes you have such a bitter outlook on the world.

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    ^ I do, however, think Fairly Four has a point about drugs and steroids. It's a constant back-and-forth between the good guys who invent new tests and the bad guys who invent new performance enhancing drugs and screening agents.

    The whole sport of cycling has pretty much admitted that evety competitor is on steroids. The Olympic champion heavyweight wrestler a few turns back famously said, entering the games, "Now we'll see whose pharmacologist is the best!"

    Every track and field athlete is on something; it is only a matter if time that each in turn gets caught. (Our favorite Jamacan sprinter is next.)

    Offensive linemen in professional football (American) already weigh 300 pounds in college, then bulk up to 380 in the pros. Professional baseball players' heads suddenly get bigger from one season to the next. It does put the notion of athletic competition in a different light.

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    if i you mean. I mean EVAN personally did what he had to to, but did the judges, federations outside forces influence the call.
    Evan skated great in the short-personally i would had him above EVgeny. in the long. he skated okay, not great okay. judges gave him the Gold.
    also past victors, oksana/nancy, pairs =1992, 2002, 1994, dance 1976, 1988,
    i mean if you look at the past versus now--mistakes under cop and sloppy skating now wouldn't have won let alone medal. yet that is what we are seeing and they are penalizing the good skates versus bad why, the people they want to catch they well. the ones they won't stay up there.
    there should be a balance between pc/s artistry, and technical.
    evan skated clean therefore he won. which is acceptabe. What i am saying some Americans don't care if EVAN won/lost let alone alot of the figure skaters.
    They don't care if he won/lost let alones alot of other american OGM medalist. Once money got in people feel the Olympic athletes are professional whether they are called that or not so they have to compete against the normal "pro sports" such as golf, tennis, basketball, football. those MEN RULE, in some cases women drool at the sight of them so figure skating doesn't really matter to those masses anymore due to Cheating in olympics sport from whatever way. WHY SHOULD we care and pay attention to the OGM winners if their is a little hint of cheating by judging, drugs, hyped up suits, whatever.
    the personality and egos shine throw are just as bad nowadays as some the pros. if the so-called olympic athletics have egos and don't care how they win(right/aided by whatever means) why as AMerican people should pay attention to , buy products from, pay to watch see them.
    The so called pro sports always had "bad boys".(known for betting on sports, aided by bad calls to win. the olympic sports were portrayed and still are as being fair play on field and off. So it matters more for the Olympic athlete comes across as a cheater, wrong by being aided for whatever reason, than egoist on top. doesn't sell to well in U.s . it might, but many places it don't. America still hopes for a fairl level playing field in the OLympic sport arena, no matter what sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fairly4
    ...in some cases women drool at the sight of them...
    That's why we should be glad we have both Lysacek and Plushenko!

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    and 8 years ago it was those of us who were fans of Sarah Hughes.
    Were you many?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seniorita View Post
    Were you many?
    sadly, no

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blades of Passion View Post
    The Witt rule is pretty tame. Some day I'm going to give a performance wherein my entire costume will come off and I'll be in only a jockstrap for my ending pose. It will be too late for the referee to stop my music and interrupt the program at that point. Hah! I'll take the minor costume deduction in return for the legion of appreciative spectators.
    Just remember to wax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seniorita View Post
    Yes ISu president to comment while a competition was running was very thoughtful of him.
    It happened because of Plushenko´s thoughtless comments, LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blades of Passion View Post
    The Witt rule is pretty tame. Some day I'm going to give a performance wherein my entire costume will come off and I'll be in only a jockstrap for my ending pose. It will be too late for the referee to stop my music and interrupt the program at that point. Hah! I'll take the minor costume deduction in return for the legion of appreciative spectators.
    Better not do this in Bern.

    I wouldn't call such costume deduction minor. It's darn near total.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaana View Post
    It happened because of Plushenko´s thoughtless comments, LOL.
    yes LOL indeed...I guess if you forgot that it is Plushenko and you cant say a nice word, you would get that Plushenko or lets say an X skater-cause with Plushenko maybe you get confused.
    So X skater is not the ISU PResident, if he wants to say he is Marie Curie reincarnation he can and he doesnt harm anyone but himself (and Marie Curie husband maybe) and of course his words are open to critique, but his words have no special meaning in the middle of competition for none else. But if Ciquanta who is ISU president decides to comment them and speaks before the Lp about the skating abilities of a skater , good or bad, that I find it wrong as an fs fan but I guess for you it is just LOL. So much for work ethics we learnt in Olys..
    You ll be happy to know that now Olys are over and shows in italy are running Ciquanta loves him again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seniorita View Post
    Were you many?
    I, for one, am a huge fan.

    Now if she would just give her gold medal to Michelle, all would be forgiven.
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