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    Opinions for the Men

    Please NO PREDICTIONS ! Just your opinion of each skater's making the Podium.

    Goebel - There is a good deal of improvement in his presentation. At the same time it appears that his technical has become faulty. Maybe the boots? hmmm. However, should be in top three.

    Weiss - If he would stop posing so much and just skate with the flow, I think the whole look would golden.-up.

    Jahnke - He's a good skater but I don't think podium bound.

    Savoie - Like Angela, everyone loves him but like Angela, it just doesn't happen and this year even moreso.

    Weir - Has a chance to win this but Nerves Nerves Nerves. He's second to none in the flow of skating. Maybe podium. (Hope so.)

    Lysacek - This guy for me was a sensation in last year's Jr. Worlds. Given the lineup, he could be on the podium.

    Others - Are there any? If so please add.

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    What's the diff between opinions and predictions? I think I get where you're coming from though- just assess the field, not placements?

    I think the men's field is pretty open. I hope the guys come up with the goods and put some clean programs out there, but no one is skating out-of-his-head fantastic, so it's going to come down to who guts it out.

    Goebel- I think Tim's got a lock on at least a place on the podium, even if he is having a little trouble. He might miss something here and there, but he's not likely for a meltdown. If it's close, he's also going to get the nod from the judges.

    Weiss- Michael IS prone to a meltdown, and unless he can hold together relatively clear programs, he's going to be in trouble. His performance in GP has been spotty (yes, he won Skate America, but it was far from specatacular). He's been lucky that no other skaters are really laying down great skates.

    Johnny Weir hasn't had a lot of exposure, or skating, since last year's nationals, so he's coming in as a bit of a wild card. Yes, he won eastern sectionals, but that wasn't against top competition either. Still, his artistry and skating technique are far above the others. I think this puts him in the running for the podium.

    Matt Savoie- While he's been around for a while, and I think people are wanting to dismiss him, he was skating well until that equipment disaster last year. He seems to still have it in him to skate well.

    And you forgot Scott Smith- he's got all the skills, and was 4th last year (if I recall correctly). He's had a so-so year so far, but who hasn't?!

    Ryan Jahnke, Evan Lysacek, Nick LaRouche, Parker Pennington... there really isn't a clearly top level field here, so I think all of them have a shot at the podium. On the one hand, I think that will make for an exciting competition, but only if the men can manage to stay on their blades. Last year was beyond splatfest. Here's hoping nationals will bring out the best.

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    Goebel- From his equipment issues to the food poisioning, I think he's still trying to stabilize his season, so I'm not sure what will happen at Nationals. Love his SP, LP is only okay for me right now. I think he'll be on the podium.

    Weiss- I like his SP better than his LP. Despite problems on 4toe, he's had a decent season and will probably be on the podium.

    Jahnke- Love this guy's style, but so inconsistent! If he can pull it together with the jumps, he will make the podium, IMO.

    Weir- Definitely competition to Jahnke for the podium, I haven't seen his programs, but have heard good things. Again it will come down to who makes the least amount of mistakes between him and Jahnke, IMO.

    Savoie- He's been around for a while and with any mistakes from Weir and/or Jahnke he could make a run for the podium with a good skate.

    Lyasek- Never seen him before, so can't comment.

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    Goebel - sure to be on the podium, but with his boot problems, not necessarily on top.

    Weiss - Shucks! This guy really doesn't have a quad (hasn't ever landed a clean one that I can recall) and now his 3A has gone south, too. But he's been held up time and again by the USFSA. Maybe he'll retire soon and give the others a chance?????

    Weir - After crumpling in last year's Nationals, the USFSA has punished him by awarding him no GPs and only one competition: Finlandia, where he won a silver medal. He won Sectionals in fine style, with all first place ordinals in both SP and FS. Let's hope this has given him the confidence to do a bang-up job at Nationals this time. He has the stuff to make the podium, and even win gold.


    Jahnke - A likable guy with an enjoyable style, but his time on the World Team hasn't been stellar. So far this season, he's been disappointing, both at Campbell's and the GP. Can't see him on the podium this year.

    Smith - Unlike Jahnke, Scott has made a bit of a splash internationally, with two silver medals to his credit. His jumps aren't all that reliable, though. Has a shot for the podium (but I'd rather see Weir there).

    Savoie - Disappointing in his lone GP event. I really like this guy's style and would like to see him do better. Hoping he can finish in the top 6.

    Lysacek - A real up-and-comer. He probably won't make the podium this year, but a top 6 placement is very likely.

    Brauninger - Would love to see this 2003 Junior silver medalist finish in the Senior top 10.

    Rohene Ward - I have heard a lot about this guy on other boards. I just hope ABC will show him.

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    Goebel -- sure, he has had some problems. It is therefore hard to really judge how strong he is. Still, he should be 1 or 2.

    Weiss -- he's been all over the map in his GP event. Hard to predict, really.

    Weir -- interesting to see how he will be doing. I'm hoping his coaching change to TT will have done him good.

    Savoie -- based on his GP performance, shouldn't really be podium contender.

    Smith, Janke -- either one could get a medal. I haven't really seen enough of them to have formed an opinion.

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    the US Nationals are still using the 6.0 system correct? If so I think gold will come down to Mike and Tim, no one else... I mean last year's splatfest saw Mike BEATING Tim... with both men having somewhat similar showings this year in the GP I think it'll come down to how they skate the GPF as well as at Nationals... whomever really shows himself to be the stronger competitor...

    Weir, Savoie, and Jahnke I GUESS all have good chances... I wasn't impressed with Jahnke last year... and I have never liked Weir's style... Jahnke was just LUCKY in a lot of respects last year... so it's up in the air, however I'm hoping Savoie can pull off a podium placement.

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    I hope Matt Savoie put down two great skates and finally earns some respect from the US judges. Their absolute lack of respect for a skater like Matt has made me so sick over the past seasons.

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    Shine - Good skating does not beat a quad, unfortunately.

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    Sad isn't it, Joe? In 2002, Matt so should have been first after the short program and gone to the Olympics.

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    his fall on his triple axel in the LP is what, I think, cost him a spot on the Olympic team (I sprained my toe cheering for Mike, so we all had our pains after that competition!)

    my wish for the podium is to see Mike, Matt, and Tim someway assembled on the podium... I don't care what color any of them get so long as they all get a medal(though I'll be extremely excited to see a certain skater keep his title! LOL)

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    Goebel - Will be on podium in some position to be sure. Despite this season's problems. He's got too much hardware on his shelves to be overlooked.

    Weiss - Think his LP stinks big time. Holds his arms as though they are carrying a large hot beach ball balanced on his thighs. Skates slowly. Poses. Can't jump anymore since he left Audrey. Time the USFSA stops holding the guy up. Which they will again no doubt. He too will be atop the podium.

    For the third spot? Well, though Savoie is more of a vet, HE won't be held up. So this is wide open. Could be Savoie or Weir, if he doesn't have an Angela meltdown when he misses a jump. Lysacek? Will they elevate a guy still competing in junior events?

    Will the judges reward any man who doesn't at least attempt a quad?

    Actually I am really looking forward to the men's competition, for once.

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    hmmmmmmmmmmmmm he was having trouble BEFORE he left Audrey, so I somehow don't see THAT as being the reason... and I think he's more consistant with Don than he has been in recent years with Audrey

    and the USFSA isn't the "only" one holding him up if he "stinks"... he's done really well this season...

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    Beg to differ, tonichelle. Weiss was jumping more consistantly before. Leaving Audrey was supposed to improve his skating. If you think it's better, fine. I think it's worse than I have ever seen it. I think the reason he has been atop the podium this season at all was because of others screwing up more.

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    ..........that Michael Weiss has two clean skates and keeps his National Title...................42

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    I think this will be a total crapshoot. The only thing I feel certain of is that noone will skate cleanly.
    Timmy's season has been a disaster thus far ... Michael is incapable of skating clean ... and who knows about the rest. Your guess is as good as mine.
    Go Evan!!!!

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