Highest PCS of The Season

Highest LP PCS of The Season

Men:

CHAN...............87.22 GPF
TAKAHASHI.......85.00 SA
CHAN...............84.14 SC
TAKAHASHI.......83,58 NHK
CHAN................81.30 COR
TAKAHASHI........81.00 GPF
KOZUKA.............80.80 TEB
ODA.................79.64 SA
ODA.................78.64 GPF
VENER...............78.12 COR
KOZUKA.............77.64 GPF
ABBOTT.............77.34 COR
AMODIO.............76.50 TEB
ABBOTT.............76.42 NHK
AMODIO.............75.86 EURO
VERNER..............75.56 COC
RIPPON..............75.16 SC
KOZUKA.............74.70 COC
VERNER..............74.44 EURO
ODA..................74.28 SC
VERNER..............73.92 GPF
JOUBERT............73.54 EURO
JOUBERT............72.50 COC
RIPPON..............72.24 SA
GACHINSKI.........72.00 EURO
CONTESTI..........70.50 EURO
AMODIO.............70.02 NHK


LADIES:

KOSTNER............62.10 EURO
CZISNY..............61.47 SC
CZISNY..............61.31 GPF
KOSTNER............60.91 GPF
SUZUKI..............60.23 COR
KOSTNER............59.54 NHK
KOSTNER............58.45 SA
KORPI.................58.16 EURO
ANDO.................58.06 GPF
ANDO.................57.82 COR
SUZUKI...............57.28 GPF
MURAKAMI..........57.14 GPF
PHANEUF.............57.04 SC
KORPI.................56.63 TEB
CZISNY...............56.40 TEB
ASADA................56.22 TEB
SUZUKI...............56.13 COC
MEIER.................56.02 EURO
KORPI.................55.84 NHK
ANDO..................55.60 COC
WAGBER..............55.54 COR
MURAKAMI...........55.43 SA
NAGASU..............55.09 TEB
MAKAROVA..........54.18 EURO
FLATT................53.99 SA
LACOSTE.............53.53 SC
V. HELGESSON......53.33 EURO
MURAKAMI...........52,52 NHK
FLATT.................52.48 NHK
MAKAROVA...........51.77 SC
PHANEUF.............51.59 TEB
WAGNER...............51.48 NHK
LEONOVA..............50.57 EURO
SAMSON...............50.07 SC
GEDEVANISHVILI.....50.04 NHK


PERSONAL BEST

MEN:

CHAN...............87.22 GPF
TAKAHASHI.......85.00 SA
KOZUKA.............80.80 TEB
ODA.................79.64 SA
VENER...............78.12 COR
ABBOTT.............77.34 COR
AMODIO.............76.50 TEB
RIPPON..............75.16 SC
JOUBERT............73.54 EURO
GACHINSKI.........72.00 EURO
CONTESTI..........70.50 EURO

LADIES:

KOSTNER............62.10 EURO
CZISNY..............61.47 SC
SUZUKI..............60.23 COR
KORPI.................58.16 EURO
ANDO.................58.06 GPF
SUZUKI...............57.28 GPF
MURAKAMI..........57.14 GPF
PHANEUF.............57.04 SC
ASADA................56.22 TEB
MEIER.................56.02 EURO
WAGNER..............55.54 COR
NAGASU..............55.09 TEB
MAKAROVA..........54.18 EURO
FLATT................53.99 SA
LACOSTE.............53.53 SC
V. HELGESSON......53.33 EURO
MAKAROVA...........51.77 SC
PHANEUF.............51.59 TEB
WAGNER...............51.48 NHK
LEONOVA..............50.57 EURO
SAMSON...............50.07 SC
GEDEVANISHVILI.....50.04 NHK

I can't add to the old thread so these the updated compilations plus the new persoanal best lists, including only inaternationl scores.

Additionally, we have had lists of Highest Total Scores, Highest TES w BV by dorispulaski, Quads, and 3As by PB and GOE average by Progue. I maintain that next to Total, PCS is the best indicator of actual ranking in competitions. The other compilations note the skaters' specialties which are dangerous only as additional arsenals for high PCS skaters who are the all rounded competitors.

Chan is a among the list toppers on Total, PCS, TES and QUADS (both Solos and Combos), making him the most dangerous. Kozuka is among the highest of Total, TES and 3A PB, and he has broken the PCS 80 mark. Oda certainly has to be a WC contender sitting at or near the top of Total, TES, Quad Combo and 3A - both PB and GOE average. Takahashi is consistently the PCS king until the GPF but his TES and Quads have been low this season.

The Ladies' outlook is rather uncertain with the addition of OC Kim, who has no record for this season, and WC Mao, who has rebounded from self imposed set backs at tbe beginning of the season. Moreover, the field is more even as can be seen from the large number of skaters (23) within the 12 point spread, unlike in Men's, with only 11 names for the 16.70 point spread. Kim and perhaps Mao may change the scenario but their dominence is not assured.

Men:

CHAN...............87.22 GPF
TAKAHASHI.......85.00 SA
CHAN...............84.14 SC
TAKAHASHI.......83.58 NHK
CHAN................81.30 COR
TAKAHASHI........81.00 GPF

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Way to go back and forth!

Great job on the list too! Must've taken you a great deal of time, huh?

these averages of the jumps and pcs are interesting, but europeans have had one more competition (in theory) vs the rest of the world skaters... it'll be interesting to see the difference (if there's much of one) once 4CCs are done.

^^^For Men, Euro has not brought any high PCS and Total scores to the current data, though it has added a good number of quads and also pulled Joubert up in his numbers which had been miserable. Even his best records from his late competitions in Europe are only at the mid level of Global lists.

for Ladies, Kostner and Korpi had a chance to up their records somewhat from the Euro but they still don't have advantages over the N Americans and the Asians.

I will of course update after the 4CC. Kim and 2 WC contenders, Chan and Oda will not be there though I doubt their numbers will be much affected. It is, however, a redeeming opportunity for the American men.

Toni, that is true.

but you're also averaging with a whole extra set of numbers, so percentages will be lower... (though I don't know your formula, and math is sooooooo not my forte!)

Toni, these, like my other lists, are not averages, just compilations of all the highest numbers and the condensation to just the best of each skater. I added a bit of my observations but they are basically just data and tools for each person to analyse and see what they see.

Progue did a very interesting list of averages of GOE point for 3As to rank the jumpers, with a "loophole" of not counting the popped jumps.

Interesting list. I'd also would like to see a list (or I can do it by myself if you want) about spin levels in international competitions this season, you know, like who got more level 4s

SkateFiguring said:

Toni, these, like my other lists, are not averages, just compilations of all the highest numbers and the condensation to just the best of each skater. I added a bit of my observations but they are basically just data and tools for each person to analyse and see what they see.

Progue did a very interesting list of averages of GOE point for 3As to rank the jumpers, with a "loophole" of not counting the popped jumps.

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ah, oops, that's what I get for not truly reading and just skimming... (when at work I can't really digest teh board)

If you like averages, Mathman did some on the original thread before the update:

Men's LP

Chan 84.22
Takahashi 83.19
Kozuka 77.71
Oda 77.52
Abbott(2) 76.88
Verner 75.87

Ladies LP

Czisny 59.73 (74.66)
Kostner 59.63 (74.54)
Suzuki 57.83 (72.29)
Ando 57.16 (71.45)
Korpi(2) 56.24 (70.30)
Murakami 55.03 (68.75)


Men's SP

Takahash 44.88
Chan 40.57
Oda 38.73
Abbott(2) 38.44
Kozuka 37.28
Verner 36.77
Rippon(2) 36.77

Ladies' SP

Kostner 30.05 (37.56)
Korpi(2) 29.01
Czisny 28.36
Ando 28.00
Asada(2) 28.00
Suzuki 27.67

I still have to update the SPs to include the Euro.

ETA: the numbers in brackets for the Ladies are equvalences to Men's PCS because they have different factors to match their different TE requirements.

MEN'S SP PB

Takahashi...........42.43 SA
Chan...................41.82 GPF
Abbott................38.54 COR
Oda.....................38.53 GPF
Kozuka................38.47 GPF
Verner.................37.53 EURO
Amodio................37.36 EURO
Rippon.................37.11 SA
Joubert................37.01 COC
Brezina.................36.49 EURO
Contesti................36.21 EURO
Gachinski...............34.76 EURO
Preaubert..............34.29 COR
Reynolds...............34.06 SC
KVDP....................33.96 EURO
Voronov................33.93 COC
Michida.................33.62 COC
Berntsson..............33.57 EURO
Swayer.................33.57 NHK
D. Ten........... .......33.07 NHK
Fernandez....... ......32.42 SC
Hanyu....................31.46 NHK
Mroz............... ......31.33 COS
Schultheiss..............31.29 EURO


LADIES' SP
Kostner...............30.60 GPF
Korpi...................30.32 EURO
Czisny.................30.14 GPF
Asada..................28.95 NHK
Ando....................28.78 GPF
Murakami..............28.43 GPF
Phaneuf................28.26 SC
Suzuki..................28.20 GPF
Nagasu.................27.63 TEB
Czisny...................27.42 TEB
Makarova...............27.37 EURO
Nagasu..................27.03 COC
Meier.....................27.00 EURO
Flatt.....................26.74 SA
Gedevanishvili.........26.65 EURO
Wagner..................25.94 COR
Marvhei..................25.88 EURO
Gedevanishvili..........25.86 NHK
Leonova.................25.63 COR
Lacoste..................25.39 SA
Suguri....................25.36 TEB
Helgesson...............25.31 EURO
Imai.......................25.26 TEB
Leonova.................25.22 COC
Marchei..................25.17 COR

These SP lists are lonnnng but since I have them I might as well leave them here for a record:

MEN SP SCORES:

Takahashi...........42.43 SA
Takahashi...........42.00 GPF
Chan...................41.82 GPF
Takahshi.............41.21 NHK
Chan...................40.42 COR
Oda.....................39.68 SA
Chan...................39.47 SC
Abbott................38.54 COR
Oda.....................38.53 GPF
Kozuka................38.47 GPF
Abbott................38.35 NHK
Oda....................38.00 SC
Verner.................37.53 EURO
Amodio................37.36 EURO
Kozuka................37.29TEB
Verner.................37.15 COR
Rippon.................37.11 SA
Joubert................37.01 COC
Verner.................36.61 CPF
Verner.................36.55 COC
Joubert................36.54 EURO
Brezina.................36.49 EURO
Rippon..................36.43 SC
Contesti................36.21 EURO
Joubert.................36.11 TEB
Kozuka..................36.10 COC
Amodio..................36.10 TEB
Gachinski...............34.76 EURO
Preaubert..............34.29 COR
Preaubert..............34.14 SC
Reynolds...............34.06 SC
KVDP....................33.96 EURO
Voronov................33.93 COC
Michida.................33.62 COC
Berntsson..............33.57 EURO
Swayer.................33.57 NHK
Contesti................33.46 COC
Gachinski...............33.46 COR
Swayer..................33.31 SA
Amodio......... ........33.26 GPF
D. Ten........... .......33.07 NHK
D. Ten...................33.00 SA
Amodio......... .........32.83 NHK
Preaubert...............32.44 EURO
Gachinski...... .........32.43 SC
Fernandez....... ......32.42 SC
Fernandez...............31.48 EURO
Hanyu....................31.46 NHK
Mroz............... ......31.33 COS
Sshultheiss..............31.29 EURO


LADIES' SP SCORES

Kostner...............30.60 GPF
Korpi...................30.32 EURO
Czisny.................30.14 GPF
Kostner...............29.80 SA
Kostner...............29.75 NHK
Korpi...................29.31 TEB
Kostner................29.15 EURO
Asada..................28.95 NHK
Ando....................28.78 GPF
Korpi....................28.71 NHK
Murakami..............28.43 GPF
Phaneuf................28.26 SC
Suzuki..................28.20 GPF
Ando....................28.12 COC
Nagasu.................27.63 TEB
Czisny..................27.58 SC
Suzuki...................27.51 COC
Asada...................27.44 TEB
Czisny...................27.42 TEB
Makarova...............27.37 EURO
Suzuki...................27.30 COR
Murakami...............27.20 SA
Nagasu..................27.03 COC
Meier.....................27.00 EURO
Ando.....................26.97 COR
Flatt.....................26.74 SA
Gedevanishvili.........26.65 EURO
Phaneuf.................26.55 TEB
Marakova...............26.46 SC
Makarova...............26.39 COR
Murakami................26.29 NHK
Wagner..................25.94 COR
Marvhei..................25.88 EURO
Gedevanishvili..........25.86 NHK
Gedevanishvili..........25.86 SA
Leonova.................25.63 COR
Wagner..................25.59 NHK
Flatt......................25.40 NHK
Lacoste..................25.39 SA
Suguri....................25.36 TEB
Flatt......................25.31 GPF
Helgesson...............25.31 EURO
Lacoste..................25.34 SC
Imai.......................25.26 TEB
Leonova.................25.22 COC
Marchei..................25.17 COR

Update after 4CC, before Worlds

Men LP:

CHAN...............87.22 GPF
TAKAHASHI.......85.00 SA
CHAN...............84.14 SC
TAKAHASHI.......83,58 NHK
TAKAHASHI.......82.86 4CC
CHAN................81.30 COR
TAKAHASHI........81.00 GPF
KOZUKA.............80.80 TEB
ODA.................79.64 SA
ODA.................78.64 GPF
ABBOTT............78.28 4CC
VENER...............78.12 COR
KOZUKA.............77.64 GPF
ABBOTT.............77.34 COR
AMODIO.............76.50 TEB
ABBOTT.............76.42 NHK
AMODIO.............75.86 EURO
VERNER..............75.56 COC
RIPPON..............75.16 SC
KOZUKA.............75.08 4CC
KOZUKA.............74.70 COC
VERNER..............74.44 EURO
ODA..................74.28 SC
VERNER..............73.92 GPF
JOUBERT............73.54 EURO
HANYU...............73.38 4CC
JOUBERT............72.50 COC
RIPPON..............72.24 SA
GACHINSKI.........72.00 EURO
RIPPON..............71.20 4CC
CONTESTI..........70.50 EURO
AMODIO.............70.02 NHK


LADIES LP:

ASADA...............62.71 4CC
KOSTNER............62.10 EURO
ANDO.................61.73 4CC
CZISNY..............61.47 SC
CZISNY..............61.31 GPF
KOSTNER............60.91 GPF
SUZUKI..............60.23 COR
NAGASU.............60.07 4CC
KOSTNER............59.54 NHK
KOSTNER............58.45 SA
KORPI.................58.16 EURO
ANDO.................58.06 GPF
CZISNY..............58.05 4CC
ANDO.................57.82 COR
SUZUKI...............57.28 GPF
FLATT................57.14 4CC
MURAKAMI..........57.14 GPF
PHANEUF.............57.04 SC
KORPI.................56.63 TEB
CZISNY...............56.40 TEB
ASADA................56.22 TEB
SUZUKI...............56.13 COC
MEIER.................56.02 EURO
KORPI.................55.84 NHK
SUZUKI...............55.77 4CC
ANDO..................55.60 COC
WAGBER..............55.54 COR
MURAKAMI...........55.43 SA
PHANEUF.............55.14 4CC
NAGASU..............55.09 TEB
MAKAROVA..........54.18 EURO
FLATT................53.99 SA
LACOSTE.............53.53 SC
V. HELGESSON......53.33 EURO
MURAKAMI...........52,52 NHK
FLATT.................52.48 NHK
MAKAROVA...........51.77 SC
PHANEUF.............51.59 TEB
WAGNER...............51.48 NHK
LEONOVA..............50.57 EURO
SAMSON...............50.07 SC
GEDEVANISHVILI.....50.04 NHK

Mao showed where she's at and Jeremy got a boost but he won't be at Worlds.

Men LP:

CHAN...............87.22 GPF
TAKAHASHI.......85.00 SA
CHAN...............84.14 SC
TAKAHASHI.......83,58 NHK
TAKAHASHI.......82.86 4CC
CHAN................81.30 COR
TAKAHASHI........81.00 GPF

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OK, but which guys do you think are the frontrunners for worlds?

MEN SP SCORES:

Takahashi...........42.43 SA
Takahashi...........42.00 GPF
Chan..................41.82 GPF
Takahshi.............41.21 NHK
Chan..................40.42 COR
Oda.......... 39.68 SA
Chan.........39.47 SC

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What?! How did Oda sneak in there?

I think there was a conspiracy to low-ball Chan at Skate Canada.

Mathman said:

OK, but which guys do you think are the frontrunners for worlds?

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I don't know, Mathman. Gachinski and Brezina? I was comparing Chan and Takahashi on another thread but I was made to be aware that I was just being overwhelmed by my favorite. :sheesh:

eta. Things are a little less clear cut if you look at the Total Scores list that I've also just updated.

Mathman said:

OK, but which guys do you think are the frontrunners for worlds?



What?! How did Oda sneak in there?

I think there was a conspiracy to low-ball Chan at Skate Canada.

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LOL Well we all know one of the Japanese titan has to be low-ball. Last year, it was Kozuka; this year Oda. Next year who know??

wonderlen3000 said:

LOL Well we all know one of the Japanese titan has to be low-ball. Last year, it was Kozuka; this year Oda. Next year who know??

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Hanyu