When i meant miki lacked artistry, i didnt mean she didnt toe-point... Toe-pointing has absolutely no relevance to whether one is able to artistically express herself. One could toe-point to umpteenth degree and yet demonstrate zero artistry.Originally Posted by katymay
I meant in terms of score inflation and being the judges pet, not in terms of skating ability (where Chan is light years ahead).
I know what you meant.pangtongfan, we already know you don't like Miki, so stop acting like a troll everytime she skates.
I second that. PTF made your point. You think Miki doesn't deserve top skater status. We get it. We just don't agree with you.I know what you meant.
Little surprise a Miki Ando fanatic would tell others to be quiet about her overscoring (note I am just one of many in this thread pointing out Andos disgusting overscoring). As fans of the sport those of us who care about the sports well being will not be quiet about disgraceful and unjust scoring which is unfair to the skaters and has already nearly destroyed the sport. Scores like Miki Andos ridiculous completely unjustified scores all season are the exact reason you are all watching this event through cheap internet feeds since nobody can be bothered to televise the farce figure skating judging has become anymore.I know what you meant.
Um, I would appreciate if you didn't speak for all us fans. Yes others feel the way you do, but not every figure skating fan does. Many people have pointed over and over again why we believe Miki gets the scores she gets, yet you keep banging the "unfair and corrupt judging" drum.
And I think it's a bit much to blame Miki Ando for the downfall of skating. We're watching internet feeds from Asia because figure skating is MORE popular over there.
Anyway, I've leave it that. You can go ahead and continue on your Miki-hating. I'm not going to debate anymore.
Last edited by Mrs. P; 02-19-2011 at 07:44 AM.
I couldn't care less if people like Miki or not, but enough is enough. You don't see me here acting like a jerk just because I don't like this or that skater. And if you think Miki's overscored, blame the judges, not her.
MikiAndoFan#1 is anything but a "fanatic". I've never seen him being disrespectful towards other skaters, and he regularly posts on the forum dedicated to other skaters.
Miki went through many struggles during her career, but one would have to be blind (or not watch her programs at all) not to notice that she improved a lot this season. She has programs that suit her well, she improved her step sequences (they go better with the music), the use of arms/hands and her spins. I'm particularly impressed with the twisted sit spin position (which Miki seems to have invented, I don't remember seeing it before) and beautiful classical position on the sit spin in the CCoSp. And while her recurring back/shoulder injury prevents her from having a deep back bend in the layback spin or doing the Biellman, she makes up for it with nice arm positions and acceleration during the spin.
I love her entrance into 3L - bang out of nowhere, a'la Oda. Her knee bend on the landings improved as well and she holds the landing edge longer than in the past.
Sure, skaters should not be blamed by the scores they got. We should blame the judges who gave +0.2 GOE on two footed and underrotated combos of Asada.
And all along I thought Carolina Kostner was the Patrick Chan of womens skating.
Yeah how can Asada get credit for such horrible jumps? I don't get it...
I really loved Rachael and Mirai
As always, I'm not surprised by the baseless arguments some posters make for unfair scoring for skaters they don't like.
Well Asada has been underscored last season so much because of unfair downgrades on her 3A( like 2010 worlds) that I would not mind if the judges would have given her +3 on her jumps today. I'm exagerating of course, but her combo today was fully rotated, and only in the replay it seemed slighty 2footed. In real time, I thought her combo was just fineYeah how can Asada get credit for such horrible jumps? I don't get it...
I really loved Rachael and Mirai
I thought Miki was really good last night. She's never going to be most artistic skater, but she did a good job with the music - felt it more than usual.
What I was really impressed with was how good her skating skills looked. Her flow, speed and ice coverage were top notch and along with Nagasu, the best of the night. Sometimes she can look labored, but that was not at all the case last night.
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