ETA: This does wreck havoc on her current format though. By having the 3Z-3L, she would have a repeated jump with the loop. So she would have to do something else instead of the solo 3T (since she does a 2A+3T later in the program.) Does anyone know the status of her flip? I really haven't quite figured out why she took that jump out this year.
I'm probably wasting my breath, but I'd really like her to do this...
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Mao made 4 mistakes in this over all competition; 2 two footed jumps in sP and two < in Lp.
Yes, some other countries do. And sometimes, as in France, they get sued for not having well defined rules.
And they cut the heart out of some skaters who believe there is no way they can win in that country, no matter how they skate, and they retire far too early, or figure out how to skate for...say Italy (Contesti, formerly French) or as here in the USA back in the 1970's for Netherlands (World Champ DeLeeuw, formerly American). So the US does not do that any more. As MM says, the goal of the USFS is not to win medals, particularly. It is an organization for all the skaters, including the little kids learning basic skills, the Adult Skaters, the synchro teams, etc.
I don't know the ins and outs of skating rules back in the days of Dianne de Leeuw. Was she shafted by having someone else put on a worlds team ahead of her? I sort of assumed she skated for the Netherlands because the U.S. ladies' field was so crowded in those days, and in the Netherlands a skater of her caliber was virtually assured a Worlds berth--the way Lily Lee skated for South Korea. Golly, I haven't thought about De Leeuw for years. Her Olympics (and John Curry's) was the first one I watched, and I remember liking her style.
Certainly the field was crowded, but if Dianne were good enough to be a World Champion, she should have not felt the need to flee, if she believed she had a chance in the US. Heck, at one point Yamaguchi was trying to skate for Japan (which had some excellent skaters itself). It didn't work out, but why did she feel the need to even look? I don't know, but I haven't seen that urge to flee the US from a really talented skater in a long time. It could just be chance...or not.
In the 1970s and 1980s there were significant "winners win & losers lose" type rumors, but no internet to verify whether they were true or not. There was a belief that if Carlo Fassi were not coaching you that you were doomed, for example, at one point. Rumors...but as a fan, you had no idea if the rumors were garbage or not.
One thing for sure, Four Continents has come a long way. Just a few years ago we could hardly find a skater who was willing to go. Now -- thanks largely to Japan suddenly taking it seriously -- it is the biggest game in town.
I don't think you should criticize Mao and Miki. You don't know what they eat. And I don't find their appearance "sad" - to me Mao looks perfect, and Mirai is above my ideal weight. And the three of them were "twins" once upon a time because Mirai was thinner then. She has gained weight this season.
The 1st Four Continents medalists were: Tatiana Malinina, Amber Corwin and Angela Nikodinov. Not to take away anything from these medalists in 1999 but FC indeed has come a long way with both Japan and USA sending their A team!
At 4CC, Miki was seen landing 3s/3l (You can see Mao's 3f/3l < attempts earlier in the clip too):
I'd love to see her do a -3lp combo but you're right, she'd have to fill a jumping pass with an extra triple, the only one left being the flip.
She seems to have given up on the flip after a fall in the short in a GP event (forgot which). After working on her lips, sadly the consistency went down.
She could put a Triple Flip in the program.
She could put a Quad Salchow in the program.
She could put a Quad Salchow and Triple Flip in the program.
She could put either of those jumps into the program, along with another 2Axel-3Toe combination.
She could put BOTH of those jumps into the program, along with another 2Axel-3Toe combination.
Instead, the judges give her undeserved +GOE and PCS for her programs, so she sticks with her safe jump layout.
I notice Miki had some problems connecting steps preceding her flip. That might gave her some problem with timing. She was very tentative going into them the few times she tried this season. In the LP, she could just do a flip without any transition. I think she should be able to land it.