What do you want to see at Worlds for the Men?

[genki]

Hi Mot

I would love Daisuke to try something like Bachelorette again - it was the programme which took my fascination with him to another level, as a skater who has something terribly unique. Never seen anything like it performed by a male single skater before or since.

Yeah!! Exactly!! That is a true choreographic masterpiece done by Kenji Miyamoto.
I am so happy to find a person like you. I showed it to some of my American friends and they said something like," Is he gay?" Common, why can you not appreciate art like that?

Re Quad, I would like to add one thing about Dai.

Dai used to land two beautiful quads in one program before injury. He said in the interview, " I used to do two quads in one program, so at least I will have to come back to that level or even exceed it."
This may explain his strong quest for quads.

[SkateFiguring]

mot, very interesting information. I'd love to comment on it but it's so OT, starting from my question for you. I'd like to take it to a new thread but don't have an appropriete thread title for it. I like to analyse mindsets and assess the skaters from where their heads are at. I need to know what to call the subject.

[mot]

SkateFiguring, I shall keenly await your new thread.

[treeloving]

Thank you so much Mot for your detail reply, it is very interesting to read.

Talking about Yuzuru - he at the beginning of the season said the quad is what separates the senior skaters from the juniors. He in reality needed the quad just to compete with those who are expected to be in the final flight of Japan Nats - all have the quad or nearly do in their arsenals. (Daisuke Murakami, Japanese No 7 man, fell but rotated 4S at Universiade BTW.)
However, his focus is not only on the quad - in the recent interview, he said he had been overwhelmed and fascinated by Patrick's skating skills, which he witnessed with his own eyes during the practice at COR. He now calls Patrick as his role model in skating skills. How he described his admiration was rather funny and cute - he said he wanted Patrick to give him a piggyback and skate, so that he could learn how to do it, and he was afraid if they'd hold and skate together like ice dancers, he would fall by trying to keep up with Patrick. He said he'd then even imitated Patrick a bit and went for deeper edges than usual during the warm-up and was surprised that it gave him much more speed. He now says that Plushenko is his hero, Johnny his idol, Tod his textbook, Patrick his role model - the young boy wants everything!

Yuzuru is so cute. It make me smile when I read this. The young boy want everything and the things will make him to be Olympic champion!

Wish he has more inspiration watching world at home so his style will be combination of many great skater! (does this make my post a bit less out of topic )

That is going to inspire a few slashfics.

I really cannot imagine Yuzuru and Patrick.

[SkateFiguring]

I started a new thread, Winning Ways, in The Edge, to continue this interesting but OT discussion.

[pangtongfan]

If Chan doesnt skate half the program on hîs pants, or for that matter even if he does at this point, he has the gold in the bag.

So it makes sense to talk about the actual competition taking place which is for the silver, bronze, and downwards.

I think if Takahashi skates his best he would win the silver despite his somewhat diminished technical skills. However he has been inconsistent. I dont think Kozuka is as loved by international judges as National. So he will have to skate his best to win a medal. If he does I predict he will though since the other top men are inconsistent this year. Oda I think is the least likely to medal of the 3 Japanese men right now though he is also a threat.

Joubert can only medal this year by skating 2 clean programs. He wont generous PCS or GOE at this point, and his base values dont tend to be the highest.

Verner can maybe medal with minor mistakes, but also would need to skate close to his best.

Amodio I think actually has a better chance than Joubert right now.

Brezina could be a medal threat if he retains his level of last year.

I dont see the U.S men retaining 3 spots, but they should retain 2. Sawyer will need one of his best competitions ever to get to the 12th place needed for Canada to retain 3 spots.

[merrywidow]

What I want to see is the 3 Americans retaining 3 spots for 2012 & I hope that at least one of them medals.

[Sackie]

Wonder if now that Andrie has won the Jr Worlds if Patrick's chances have gone down a bit. Would they powers that be want both men's champs to come from Canada?
I also hope that Bradley does not get held up simply because he is the American Champ. It certianly would not be the first time!

[SkateFiguring]

Wonder if now that Andrie has won the Jr Worlds if Patrick's chances have gone down a bit. Would they powers that be want both men's champs to come from Canada?

I also hope that Bradley does not get held up simply because he is the American Champ. It certianly would not be the first time!

[dorispulaski]

When has the ISU ever "held up" Bradley's score? 18th place last time he was at Worlds????

Or is this a complaint about Evan being held up?

[blue_idealist]

Wonder if now that Andrie has won the Jr Worlds if Patrick's chances have gone down a bit. Would they powers that be want both men's champs to come from Canada?
I also hope that Bradley does not get held up simply because he is the American Champ. It certianly would not be the first time!

Definitely not for the first one. If Chan can win with four falls, then they're not going to take him out of winning position just because of what another guy did.

I don't think so about Bradley either. Abbott was never held up at Olympics or Worlds for being the American champion, IMO.

[ImaginaryPogue]

Wonder if now that Andrie has won the Jr Worlds if Patrick's chances have gone down a bit. Would they powers that be want both men's champs to come from Canada?
I also hope that Bradley does not get held up simply because he is the American Champ. It certianly would not be the first time!

Mao Asada. Daisuke Takahashi. Kanako Murakami. Yuzuru Hanyu.

[museksk8r]

about the idea of Bradley being held up. His usual inconsistency, weak skating skills, lack of transitions, and too silly to be taken seriously choreography will give the international judges plenty of reason to hold him down though.

[Joesitz]

Firstly, I do not expect to see anything from the Men I haven't seen before. There will be no quints!

I would have liked to see Hanyu but I'll wait for next season. Dai, Nobi, and Taki, I know well.

And I know Amodio, but just looking to see if Brian kicks it up a notch.

Verner will have to keep it steady, and Brezina should not knock himself out here.

Gachinsky could pull it off, but I have to see it to believe it.

Easy win for Chan if he skates a steady no mistake routine. I'll be looking for that.

I'll be looking for at least one of the American boys to skate solid and place top 10.

[Layfan]

Jeremy was never "held up" for being the American champion. Why would Ryan be?