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    Courtney really moved up in the free skate. And I'm sure she'll be back in juniors internationally next year. Good for Agnes actually doing a good LP!


    Pl. Name Nation TSS = TES+ PCS+ SS TR PE CH IN Ded.- StN.
    1 Adelina SOTNIKOVA RUS 115.45 61.04 54.41 6.96 6.36 6.93 6.89 6.86 0.00 #21
    2 Elizaveta TUKTAMISHEVA RUS 110.51 56.28 54.23 6.71 6.50 6.86 6.93 6.89 0.00 #22
    3 Agnes ZAWADZKI USA 107.90 55.37 52.53 6.54 6.36 6.75 6.61 6.57 0.00 #24
    4 Courtney HICKS USA 100.94 53.70 47.24 6.07 5.71 6.07 5.96 5.71 0.00 #16
    5 Risa SHOJI JPN 99.78 52.54 47.24 6.00 5.64 6.00 6.00 5.89 0.00 #14
    6 Christina GAO USA 98.47 48.89 49.58 6.39 5.96 6.14 6.32 6.18 0.00 #19
    7 Miyabi OBA JPN 96.80 49.81 46.99 6.21 5.61 5.86 5.93 5.75 0.00 #20
    8 Polina SHELEPEN RUS 93.35 48.23 46.12 5.93 5.46 5.68 5.89 5.86 1.00 #23
    9 Ira VANNUT BEL 92.39 52.50 39.89 5.29 4.64 5.18 4.96 4.86 0.00 #9
    10 Zijun LI CHN 88.81 47.35 42.46 5.71 4.96 5.25 5.43 5.18 1.00 #13
    11 Yretha SILETE FRA 78.36 37.82 41.54 5.32 5.04 5.14 5.29 5.18 1.00 #15
    12 Romy BÜHLER SUI 77.82 40.23 39.59 5.00 4.64 5.00 5.04 5.07 2.00 #10
    13 Juulia TURKKILA FIN 76.24 39.90 36.34 4.64 4.29 4.54 4.71 4.54 0.00 #5
    14 Alice GARLISI ITA 75.94 38.54 38.40 4.93 4.57 4.75 4.86 4.89 1.00 #7
    15 Yuki NISHINO JPN 75.05 31.31 44.74 5.71 5.39 5.61 5.64 5.61 1.00 #17
    16 Gerli LIINAMÄE EST 73.52 35.38 39.14 5.04 4.93 4.82 4.96 4.71 1.00 #18
    17 Victoria HUEBLER AUT 72.22 38.27 33.95 4.36 3.93 4.29 4.39 4.25 0.00 #4
    18 Isabel DRESCHER GER 70.86 36.85 34.01 4.54 3.96 4.29 4.29 4.18 0.00 #6
    19 Monika SIMANCIKOVA SVK 69.82 37.58 33.24 4.68 3.82 4.07 4.14 4.07 1.00 #2
    20 Brooklee HAN AUS 68.70 35.61 35.09 4.57 4.29 4.29 4.54 4.25 2.00 #3
    21 Ho Jung LEE KOR 67.80 34.10 34.70 4.61 4.00 4.36 4.46 4.25 1.00 #1
    22 Patricia GLESCIC SLO 65.77 32.55 34.22 4.54 3.96 4.21 4.39 4.29 1.00 #12
    23 Nicole SCHOTT GER 65.13 30.38 36.75 4.96 4.29 4.61 4.54 4.57 2.00 #11
    24 Isabelle M. OLSSON SWE 60.85 31.05 33.80 4.61 4.11 3.79 4.50 4.11 4.00 #8

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaylee View Post
    I was curious about this stat, so did a little checking. Looking only at ISU events, Caroline Zhang in 2006-2007, Yu-Na Kim in 2005-2006, and Mao Asada in 2004-2005 also won every single SP and LP in their undefeated seasons.
    Wow! I didn't know that, thanks! I sure hope Adelina will follow Mao/Yuna's steps from now on

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    thanks, ice888ice:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirunna View Post
    Wow! I didn't know that, thanks! I sure hope Adelina will follow Mao/Yuna's steps from now on
    I hope Adelina AND Liza will follow the way Mao/ Yu-Na did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meli_Huber View Post
    I hope Adelina AND Liza will follow the way Mao/ Yu-Na did.
    Of course! I always found Adelina to be more like Mao and Liza like Yuna(of course they aren't, each has her own style, plus, nobody knows if Adelina or Liza will really get at the top someday). But it's fun to compare them. For now, Adelina dominated like Mao did in her first season. I bet Adelina will go to senior GP and return to jr worlds next season. How funny will it be if next season, on the JGP, Liza will dominate? And defeat Adelina in the jr worlds?

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    http://www.isuresults.com/results/wj..._FS_Scores.pdf

    Just going through the top 7 skaters, this was a very tough panel None of the top 7 fell, and yet:

    Adelina got negative GOE on the 3F and her layback only got Level 2
    Liza had a UR on a 2S 2t 2lo (I assume this was supposed to be a 3s2t2lo?
    Agnes had an edge call on her 3F and < type UR on 3Lo and 3S
    Courtney had << under rotation on the 3T in her 3lz3t combo, an edge call on both her lutzes, and a < ur on her 3F
    Risa had edge calls on both lutzes, < UR on her 3Lo, and <ur on the final jump of her 3/2/2 combo.
    Christina had an edge call on her lutz, and UR on her 2a
    Myabi had << underrotation and a edge call on her lutz

    Final standings:

    FPl. Name Nation Points SP FS
    1 Adelina SOTNIKOVA RUS 174.96 1 1
    2 Elizaveta TUKTAMISHEVA RUS 169.11 2 2
    3 Agnes ZAWADZKI USA 161.07 5 3
    4 Christina GAO USA 155.27 3 6
    5 Risa SHOJI JPN 151.27 7 5
    6 Courtney HICKS USA 150.92 10 4
    7 Polina SHELEPEN RUS 149.93 4 8
    8 Miyabi OBA JPN 148.62 6 7
    9 Zijun LI CHN 139.81 8 10
    10 Ira VANNUT BEL 133.51 18 9
    11 Yretha SILETE FRA 128.60 9 11
    12 Yuki NISHINO JPN 121.14 11 15
    13 Alice GARLISI ITA 119.61 14 14
    14 Romy BÜHLER SUI 119.22 16 12
    15 Gerli LIINAMÄE EST 117.86 12 16
    16 Juulia TURKKILA FIN 115.78 21 13
    17 Victoria HUEBLER AUT 111.91 20 17
    18 Monika SIMANCIKOVA SVK 109.53 19 19
    19 Isabel DRESCHER GER 109.48 22 18
    20 Patricia GLESCIC SLO 107.16 17 22
    21 Brooklee HAN AUS 106.98 23 20
    22 Nicole SCHOTT GER 106.54 15 23
    23 Ho Jung LEE KOR 105.92 24 21
    24 Isabelle M. OLSSON SWE 104.54 13 24
    25 Alexandra NAJARRO CAN FNR 25
    26 Sila SAYGI TUR FNR 26
    27 Alexandra KAMIENIECKI POL FNR 27
    28 Alina FJODOROVA LAT FNR 28
    29 Anita MADSEN DEN FNR 29
    30 Rebecka EMANUELSSON SWE FNR 30
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    Adelina stepped out on the 3F and couldn't hold on to the Biellman, hence the level 2.

    The calling was tough but, IMO, it was accurate. Agnes does lip, Courtney's jumps were short on rotation, Risa does have problems with her flutz and her under-rotations, Christina does flutz and her 2A is weak, etc. You didn't need to be a caller to see a lot of the things.

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    It's good to know that under this tough panel, Adelina didn't receive and "e" on her Lutz :D I always thought her Lutz was borderline in terms of edge, maybe she worked on that

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    Quote Originally Posted by let`s talk View Post
    Thank you! Adelina was magnificent. She has it all doesn't she.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirunna View Post
    Liza got higher marks than Adelina in Transitions, Choreography and Interpretation! Finally the judges reword her for her Asturias program! Still, in second place. But Liza and Adelina are virtually tied in PCS!

    I believe that if Liza would have skated the way she did in Jr nationals(in the LP), she would be the winner. Still, she kept it together! Happy for both of them
    Good for them! It's about time. I always thought Liza was the more interpretive one and had better programs. Congrats to both girls.

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    It appears Sotnikova is in place with Kim and Asada for 2013 Worlds. These skaters lock in their podium places.

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    Last edited by oleada; 03-05-2011 at 10:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz View Post
    It appears Sotnikova is in place with Kim and Asada for 2013 Worlds. These skaters lock in their podium places.
    Sotnikova does need to work on her spins a bit, though. Her layback positions are sloppy and cause her to lose speed and control - hence the level 2. However, if her spins, and all of the Russian ladies spins, improve, I can see this happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oleada View Post
    Well, there she didn't do it because she fell on the 3S.

    Tutkamysheva LP
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh1ow...el_video_title
    WOW!! This young lady has it all too. Thanks for the link.

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    As a measure of how good the performances of Adelina and Elizaveta were, if one were to combine all of the World Junior Championships since 2005 and come up with medal podium, it would come out as follows:-

    1. Mao Asada (2005) - 179.24
    2. Kim Yu-Na (2006) - 177.54
    3. Adelina Sotnikova (2011) - 174.96

    Well done to Adelina and Elizaveta - they are the future of figure skating.

    Time to change the Age Eligibility Rules. I think they should be changed turn 14 on the 1st July the previous year instead of 15. That way Adelina and Elizaveta could compete in seniors next year instead of 2013 which I think is ridiculous. Moreover, Mao Asada would have been able to have competed in the 2006 Olympics - when arguably she would have won the title having already beaten all of those who did eventually make the podium that season. The quality of seniors this year has not been that great and it needs an injection of new life to revive interest. Thats what Adelina and Elizaveta would provide.

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