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Thread: France's noble gesture resonates in midst of crisis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    ^ Yes, I agree, that is the dilemma.

    On the "Art" thread Blue Dog posted Michelle Kwan's 1998 short program. In those years she did 3Lz+2T. 2A, and 3T. She ran off a succession of the finest miniature gems in the history of the sport.

    Then the sport advanced a little and she had to up the ante. She had to go with a triple flip instead of triple toe. Her short programs were never as good again. Sport or art?
    And how many other skating programs have 3Flips ruined?!?!! Damn those 3Flips! *shakes fist*

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    According to this Japanese news source, the ISU has turned down French federation's offer of the 2012 WC to be held in Tokyo instead of Nice, as they'd asked for the right for 2013 WC in return, Cinquanta stated.

    Japanese federation is looking to bid for the 2015 WC meanwhile and Cinquanta said that he'd support the bid if submitted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mot View Post
    According to this Japanese news source, the ISU has turned down French federation's offer of the 2012 WC to be held in Tokyo instead of Nice, as they'd asked for the right for 2013 WC in return, Cinquanta stated.

    Japanese federation is looking to bid for the 2015 WC meanwhile and Cinquanta said that he'd support the bid if submitted.
    So...Didier really hasn't changed his tune at all, the whole "We all have a heart" BS notwithstanding.

    I don't know about you, but the Japan Times author must feel like a fool now - at least he wrote in English, so most Japanese would not even get to read his naive article so he probably won't be laughed at while walking in the streets of Japan. Everyone and their dog knows the kind of person Didier Gailhaguet is within the figure skating circle. While everyone plays politics to some extent, no other skating federations aside from France and Russia have this legacy of one man owning their federation forever and ran them as their private business. That's a big difference.

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    [QUOTE=Mathman;558640On the "Art" thread Blue Dog posted Michelle Kwan's 1998 short program. In those years she did 3Lz+2T. 2A, and 3T. She ran off a succession of the finest miniature gems in the history of the sport.

    Then the sport advanced a little and she had to up the ante. She had to go with a triple flip instead of triple toe. Her short programs were never as good again. Sport or art?[/QUOTE]

    Actually, Kwan started doing the 3F in 1998 in the SP after the stress fracture in her left foot. She also removed the 3T-3T combo from her FS and made the 3T her last element in the FS that season because it wouldn't affect the balance of the competition or program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mot View Post
    According to this Japanese news source, the ISU has turned down French federation's offer of the 2012 WC to be held in Tokyo instead of Nice, as they'd asked for the right for 2013 WC in return, Cinquanta stated.

    Japanese federation is looking to bid for the 2015 WC meanwhile and Cinquanta said that he'd support the bid if submitted.
    For a moment I thought, why didn't Speedy turn down just "the right for 2013 WC in return?" part, but the next moment I realized that might be exactly what he did and that in that case the first proposal was taken back by the proposer as a consequence of this refusal of this (proposer's) additional condition.

    Not only Gallagher looks foolish but the whole Japanese media now seems dumb to have taken the original proposal seriously. The Canadian fed turning down Didier was well known prior to this, so they believed it was something different than that.

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    It struck me as an obvious opportunity to make a "grand gesture" which would be awkward to grant given the follow on implications.

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