Gao has not even competed on the senior level internationally yet, and has been skating under the radar for the past couple of seasons, that could all change next season when she competes as a senior internationally. She might make a splash immediately like Kanako did, or she could get lost in the shuffle - we don't know yet and because she has yet to deal with big pressure, we don't know how she will handle it. Adam's situation is different. I have a hunch his issue might not be his coaching situation so much as his head. This season he seems to have become a bit of a headcase, and in that respect, making a coaching change is probably a smart move. I mean, it certainly seemed to help Alissa and Tomas this season. Not everyone has the mindset to be a champion. Yuna did, on top of being very talented, so it is not surprising she won the OGM. Brian is a good coach, but he's not a miracle worker just like all the other coaches out there. Adam has improved a lot under Brian, so we know that Brian is at least a good technical coach, but perhaps he isn't the best at instilling the right competitive mindset in his students. As I mentioned before, Yuna had the championship mindset when she came to Brian, he didn't have to instill it in her. It is too soon to tell if Gao has the right mindset or not, but if she does, she may stay with Brian for a long time and do very well under his tutledge. Adam at this point doesn't have the right competitive mindset, and seeing how he's been with Brian for 2 years, he's probably realized that working hard and having a good technical coach isn't enough to make you a champion. His competitive mindset is the missing piece of the puzzle for him, and he was probably trying to give Brian a chance, but after 2 years he still has some kind of mental block, and so he's leaving Brian and likely looking for a new coach who can help him develop the right competitive mindset.
Originally Posted by Tinymavy15
does anyone knows where will adam train after this change??
Six Point Zero
He will remain in the Cricket Club. His "new" coach is actually one of the many trainers at the club that Adam's been working with for a while now.
Originally Posted by jayjayjayyy
I wonder if Adam hadn't had two events where he exceeded expectations (Japan Open and Worlds 2010) if this would've happened. Being World Junior Champion twice is impressive, but with those two events he transformed himself from possible contender to contender or favorite for all podiums. Any way you look at it, Adam's stock did rise under Orser, but possibly more than Adam or Orser could have anticipated.
Your post makes the most sense. I don't know if it's true, but I am willing to buy it for today at least,
Originally Posted by rocketry
Shall some of us go to the YuNa News thread and discuss Rippon?
I think YuNa is one of two top skaters of today (with Orser and maybe Opergard) but I don't mix with gush threads.
Ah ha. Thank you for some unknown, as least for me, news about Rippon. I would assume he has many coaches and Briand will be his primary coach.
Originally Posted by Krislite
btw, do all skaters have many coaches? I can understand a separate coach assisting a skater with a technical problem but not for his overall tech. The Choreographer will give him a good routine which he can tweek to feel more comforable. I think he knows what he's doing.
Yes to Briand as primary coach -- see the USFS press release that I excerpted in the very first post in this thread.
Originally Posted by Joesitz
Not sure all do, but many popular coaches with many students look after them as a team, consisting of several assistant coaches, who are not necessarily specialist technical coaches. Akiko Suzuki once tweeted that it was good to have a few assistant coaches around when the tension between her and her main coach, Hiroshi Nagakubo, got a bit too much. When Mao was with Tarasova, whose personal circumstances prevented her from travelling to Nagoya where Mao would not leave, Zanetta Folle was with her in Japan before the Olys and the Worlds.
Originally Posted by Joesitz
Also some skaters who are under the coaches based in foreign countries have another coach back in their own country too. Miki practices with her former main coach Yuko Monna when she is in Japan, Oda with his mum (also a coach), Daisuke Murakami is looked after by Nagakubo when he's in Japan, Amodio with Annick Dumont when in France, etc, etc.
ETA: There are of course husband and wife teams too - Yuka Sato and Jason Dungjen, John Zimmerman and Silvia Fontana, Pasquale Camerlengo and Anjelika Krylova, Nobuo and Kumiko Sato, etc.
Last edited by mot; 04-02-2011 at 07:30 PM.
First, I would like to say good luck to Adam. I still think the US men's field is wide open. It is a pity that Adam couldn't stake his claim as a top American man this season by making the Worlds team, but next season is another season.
Interesting to watch now given this announcement - Adam Rippon's interview before 2011 Four Continents with Universal Sports - http://www.universalsports.com/video...a44314d8f.html
At 4:20, you can hear Adam talk about what he did after his US Nationals LP; he took his skates off, and went outside, and he called his coach. Not Brian Orser (who was there at the competition), but Ghislain Briand, in Toronto, who was the one to talk with him about his skate and give him words of support. At the time, I thought it was strange, but it makes more sense now.
This change does not appear to be made due to technical reasons, because Ghislain Briand was one of Adam's coaches already; there was no need for a coaching change in order for Adam to work with him. Unlike Alexe Gilles's recent coaching change, this announcement leaves me with questions still. If Adam was changing coaches and locations it would have made more sense, but Adam changing head coaches to the assistant coach he was already working with doesn't. I don't think Brian is being blamed for Adam's triple axel misses, or else Adam wouldn't be working with Ghislain still since he's the jumping coach.
Wicked Yankee Girl
It might be as simple as Ghislain charges less than Brian, and Ghislain's skill is what Adam really needs at this point.
So what story would you draw from what you just said?
Originally Posted by jaylee
I can't imagine Yu na bombing. Maybe she won't skate up to expectations but I kind of think she will be just fine. However if she bombs it will probably mean that it just wasn't her day. Nothing more...
I'm just looking forward to seeing if she has improved her stretch, the position of her feet etc while in competition. So far it looks like she has from practice videos.
TWO SIDES of BRIAN ORSER to students...
1. Not Flexible
2. He could be felt INCONSIDERATE to skaters
3. Too CONFIDENT that everything is well under his control
1. Very good SPEAKER for skaters
2. Excellent ABILITY to coach
3. Very STRAIGHT and REASONABLE
In any relationship, if you felt being neglected or mistreated...You LEAVE...NO MATTER WHAT.