does anyone knows where will adam train after this change??
Here is his 4CC FS video from last year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pHhqa7b1yA
He was in 7th place more than 12 points out of first then went on to win the competition by almost 10 points.
Here is the FS video from 4CC from this year http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBW_fyrSyUM He was in a stronger position, 5th after the short with less ground to make up. But he ended up more than 12 points from the podium. PJ said in the first video that Briand was with him at the boards and in the kiss and cry in 2010. I think that is the guy Adam wants to work full time with.
I must say after re-watching some of the Kiss and Cry facial expressions of Orser from this season with Rippon I cringe how completely absent he was as a coach and looked so uncomfortable like he was embarrassed. It is uncomfortable to watch --- I'd rather see a coach over the top waving etc (no offense Robin W.) than look embarrassed to be there. That kind of moody, emotional coach has got to takes its toll on a skater.
I wonder if Adam hadn't had two events where he exceeded expectations (Japan Open and Worlds 2010) if this would've happened. Being World Junior Champion twice is impressive, but with those two events he transformed himself from possible contender to contender or favorite for all podiums. Any way you look at it, Adam's stock did rise under Orser, but possibly more than Adam or Orser could have anticipated.
Shall some of us go to the YuNa News thread and discuss Rippon?
I think YuNa is one of two top skaters of today (with Orser and maybe Opergard) but I don't mix with gush threads.
btw, do all skaters have many coaches? I can understand a separate coach assisting a skater with a technical problem but not for his overall tech. The Choreographer will give him a good routine which he can tweek to feel more comforable. I think he knows what he's doing.
Also some skaters who are under the coaches based in foreign countries have another coach back in their own country too. Miki practices with her former main coach Yuko Monna when she is in Japan, Oda with his mum (also a coach), Daisuke Murakami is looked after by Nagakubo when he's in Japan, Amodio with Annick Dumont when in France, etc, etc.
ETA: There are of course husband and wife teams too - Yuka Sato and Jason Dungjen, John Zimmerman and Silvia Fontana, Pasquale Camerlengo and Anjelika Krylova, Nobuo and Kumiko Sato, etc.
Last edited by mot; 04-02-2011 at 05:30 PM.
First, I would like to say good luck to Adam. I still think the US men's field is wide open. It is a pity that Adam couldn't stake his claim as a top American man this season by making the Worlds team, but next season is another season.
Interesting to watch now given this announcement - Adam Rippon's interview before 2011 Four Continents with Universal Sports - http://www.universalsports.com/video...a44314d8f.html
At 4:20, you can hear Adam talk about what he did after his US Nationals LP; he took his skates off, and went outside, and he called his coach. Not Brian Orser (who was there at the competition), but Ghislain Briand, in Toronto, who was the one to talk with him about his skate and give him words of support. At the time, I thought it was strange, but it makes more sense now.
This change does not appear to be made due to technical reasons, because Ghislain Briand was one of Adam's coaches already; there was no need for a coaching change in order for Adam to work with him. Unlike Alexe Gilles's recent coaching change, this announcement leaves me with questions still. If Adam was changing coaches and locations it would have made more sense, but Adam changing head coaches to the assistant coach he was already working with doesn't. I don't think Brian is being blamed for Adam's triple axel misses, or else Adam wouldn't be working with Ghislain still since he's the jumping coach.
It might be as simple as Ghislain charges less than Brian, and Ghislain's skill is what Adam really needs at this point.
I can't imagine Yu na bombing. Maybe she won't skate up to expectations but I kind of think she will be just fine. However if she bombs it will probably mean that it just wasn't her day. Nothing more...
I'm just looking forward to seeing if she has improved her stretch, the position of her feet etc while in competition. So far it looks like she has from practice videos.
TWO SIDES of BRIAN ORSER to students...
1. Not Flexible
2. He could be felt INCONSIDERATE to skaters
3. Too CONFIDENT that everything is well under his control
1. Very good SPEAKER for skaters
2. Excellent ABILITY to coach
3. Very STRAIGHT and REASONABLE
In any relationship, if you felt being neglected or mistreated...You LEAVE...NO MATTER WHAT.