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    Thumbs up Editorial: Stop Hating on Ice Skating

    Student Editorial. Good read.

    http://voice.paly.net/node/26996

    When skating, you are permanently moving, in a 45 degree Fahrenheit ice chamber, and occasionally get to jump up in the air and go crashing down onto a sheet of ice that is even harder than my abs. I must admit, my track workouts are tough, but nothing compares to doing back-to-back four minute long skating programs.

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    I love it. This should be required reading for anyone who makes inane comments about males in figure skating.

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    Good for him! He writes well, too.

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    Stealing this for my friends (on and offline) who think skating isn't a real sport.

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    I assume you saw my tweeted link last night, Tonichelle?

    Here's a profile article on the student editorial's author, Brian Benton, from 2009: http://voice.paly.net/node/20615
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    For now, Benton seems content skating, and still appreciates the simplicity that drew him to the sport.

    "I think the main thing is that skating is artistic and athletic," Benton said. "It's one of the few sports that is."

    As Benton continues his quest for success in figure skating, participating in a sport less common for males is not an issue. For Benton it is about the skills, the talent, what he brings to the ice and trying his hardest every time he steps on the ice.

    "I don't think that being a male figure skater affects Brian one bit," [coach] Sebastian said. "I think he enjoys that fact that he has the abilities to be different."

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    Great article!

    Years ago, in the training facility for the Lake Placid (1980) Olympics, they gave several strength and endurance tests to a bunch of American male athletes, including pairs skater Randy Gardner. As I recall from a Sports Illustrated (I think) article at the time, Gardner did better than all the skiers, bobsledders, and whatnot. Moreover, though Gardner might not have been able to bench-press 400 pounds, he could lift his partner over his head while skating around—and unlike many pairs, Tai and Randy were very close in height.

    I wouldn't even go see that Will Ferrell movie. Several people told me it was very funny, but I knew it would make trouble for figure skaters. If that idiot sequinned caricature is the one male figure skater most of America has ever encountered, what does anyone think that the general public will assume about skaters?

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    IMHO- The issue isn't really how "hard" it is or isn't. It's about how honest it is as a "sport". Many, many people don't respect it mainly because they think the results are fixed- i.e. the judging is crooked. And frankly, many times the sport as a whole isn't helping much by producing results that even hardcore fans struggle to understand sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.D. View Post
    IMHO- The issue isn't really how "hard" it is or isn't. It's about how honest it is as a "sport". Many, many people don't respect it mainly because they think the results are fixed- i.e. the judging is crooked. And frankly, many times the sport as a whole isn't helping much by producing results that even hardcore fans struggle to understand sometimes.
    Red, I agree with you. However, much of what male skaters deal with is that people think we're not any more athletic than other athletes because some of us "look so pretty" in our programs. They also don't see the inherent danger in skating. I have friends who think ice dancing is as safe as golf, or even safer. Nothing could be further from the truth.

    I'm not advocating an ubermasculine version of skating (like Skate Canada tried to promote). I think people should respect it for the sport and art that it is.

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    Some people don't like the idea of a judged sport at all. By definition, a judged sport means that you didn't really win, the judges just said you won.

    Like boxing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hernando View Post
    Boxing has had more than it's share of controversies including the famouslong count between Dempsey and Tunney.
    In addition theirhavebeen episodes of rascism and many crooked promoters "arranging" results

    Still, thefight I cited had no dispute. It ended in a knockout.

    That wasn't the case when Ray fought Marvin for the middleweight title. Fight fans still argue about that result and not rearly as politely as little fights we see at GS from time to time.
    Even football, basketball, and baseball have had "interesting" calls.

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    Here's the problem I have, though. I see a clear double standard.

    Skaters (and many skating fans) make the case that they want skating to be respected as a sport. Ok.

    But when the skaters in turn are treated like "real" athletes in the press, and are held accountable when they mess up, etc...people throw up their hands. Can't have it both ways folks.

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    Speaking of the Rumble in the Jungle...Yes, it was a knockout, but a very strange 8-count knockout. (Foreman was up at the count of 8 but the referee called the fight.) Plus, the ropes on the ring had been deliberately loosened so that Zaire's popular favorite Ali could lean way back on the ropes and Foreman couldn't reach his head. In no other ring in the world would the "rope-a-dope" have worked. :thumbsdown:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympia View Post
    I wouldn't even go see that Will Ferrell movie. Several people told me it was very funny, but I knew it would make trouble for figure skaters. If that idiot sequinned caricature is the one male figure skater most of America has ever encountered, what does anyone think that the general public will assume about skaters?
    It was tongue in cheek, and a lot of well known American skaters were involved with it. To take any Will Ferrell movie seriously does a gross injustice to entertainment.

    However, that movie wasn't funny, it was just stupid. So you haven't missed much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.D. View Post
    IMHO- The issue isn't really how "hard" it is or isn't. It's about how honest it is as a "sport". Many, many people don't respect it mainly because they think the results are fixed- i.e. the judging is crooked. And frankly, many times the sport as a whole isn't helping much by producing results that even hardcore fans struggle to understand sometimes.
    Do many, many people really not respect the sport because they think the results are fixed? Or is it about the actual endeavours on the ice including the sparkles and dance element? Unless you have broadened your horizons recently, you yourself only watch ladies skating and have certain issues with men skating, or don't feel comfortable watching. I don't think that's because you think the results are fixed, but i could be wrong

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