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    Plushenko seeks amateur status in Olympics bid

    http://www.universalsports.com/news-...amateur+status

    MOSCOW (AP) - Russian figure skater Evgeni Plushenko is seeking to regain his amateur status, which could allow him to compete in the 2014 Sochi Olympics in his home country.

    Russian Figure Skating Federation president Alexander Gorshkov said Thursday that the 2006 Olympic champion sent a letter seeking the restoration of his amateur status.

    Gorshkov said at a news conference that the federation gave preliminary approval, with a final decision expected in June. If approved, the federation would send it to the International Skating Union.

    The ISU stripped Plushenko of eligibility last year after he appeared in exhibitions without permission.
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    Well...here comes the payback for financing the 2011 Worlds in Moscow...

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    He has a lot of fans and they are so devout they hang up giant banners of him at competitions he is not at so he's good for skating.

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    The ISU will be between a rock and a hard place. If they allow Plushenko to be reinstated then they lose some of the muscle behind their rule. If they make an exception this time it will be assumed they will make them in the future. So skaters, do whatever, after a time out youll be back in the game.

    However, since it was the Russian Federation who iniated the ban in the first place, and are now considering revoking it, it won't go over well if the ISU ignores their wishes (especially after Russia came to the rescue for worlds).

    Is there a right answer?

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    (especially after Russia came to the rescue for worlds).
    It's not like Russia was the only one willing to rescue Worlds. There were 6 candidates that applied to relocate the championships. Those were Vancouver, Colorado Spings/Lake Placid, Moscow, Zagreb, Turku and Graz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILoveFigures View Post
    It's not like Russia was the only one willing to rescue Worlds. There were 6 candidates that applied to relocate the championships. Those were Vancouver, Colorado Spings/Lake Placid, Moscow, Zagreb, Turku and Graz.
    true, but something put them over the top. All I'm saying is it's going to be some fancy dancing on the ISU's part either way to make sure everyone comes away satisfied (not counting the skater should they tell him no)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonichelle View Post
    true, but something put them over the top. All I'm saying is it's going to be some fancy dancing on the ISU's part either way to make sure everyone comes away satisfied (not counting the skater should they tell him no)
    IMO, if the ISU wants credibility they should stick with their original desition. I have nothing against Plushenko, BUT, he has violated the ISU rules and therefore has to pay the consequences.

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    I don't think it will be a problem. As I recall, the original infraction was more a squabble between Plushenko and the Russian federation than with the ISU. IIRC Plushenko's offense was that he skated in some shows without the permission of the Russian federation.

    If Plushenko makes it up with Piseev, I don't think the ISU will have any difficulty with it.

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    Why now but not within the legal appeal period? What if it is seen as Plushenko taking a vacation whenever he wants and be reinstated whenever he wants? Is there a new motivator to compete at Sochi, something that gives him confidence to medal? I don't see his chances getting better 4 years from his last foray.

    Plushenko could have helped Russia last year but he didn't. Russia needs to nurture their Men for the future instead of depending on one who is over his prime with a damaged body. Plushenko certainly doesn't make things easy for ISU or the Russian Fed. Give him a Platinum Life Time Achievement Medal, a statue on a square in Moscow, and a political post already.

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    It was my understanding that he can apply for reinstatement also within the rules. There is no need to "make an exception", there are rules that say he is eligible for reinstatement if his federation applies and they were planning to use this option from the beginning.
    And, if I remember correctly, they planned to start the application process around this time and it was discussed in many different interviews long before the quake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkateFiguring View Post
    Why now but not within the legal appeal period? What if it is seen as Plushenko taking a vacation whenever he wants and be reinstated whenever he wants? Is there a new motivator to compete at Sochi, something that gives him confidence to medal? I don't see his chances getting better 4 years from his last foray.

    Plushenko could have helped Russia last year but he didn't. Russia needs to nurture their Men for the future instead of depending on one who is over his prime with a damaged body. Plushenko certainly doesn't make things easy for ISU or the Russian Fed. Give him a Platinum Life Time Achievement Medal, a statue on a square in Moscow, and a political post already.
    Because I think appeal and reinstatement are different things. Appeal means you disagree with the decision and he didn't, reinstatement means you agree that you violated the rules, you took the punishment, and now are asking to be eligible again. Certain violations are not reinstatement eligible, but his is. At least that's how I understand things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILoveFigures View Post
    It's not like Russia was the only one willing to rescue Worlds. There were 6 candidates that applied to relocate the championships. Those were Vancouver, Colorado Spings/Lake Placid, Moscow, Zagreb, Turku and Graz.
    Haha, but no one but Russia offered to pay for ALL the expenses of the event and have their de facto Head of the State giving assurance before the ISU Council vote and call Speedy personally after Russia was awarded the spot.

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    New member Neda, welcome. Please log in and read your Personal Messages.

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    Some of these skaters when they perform in shows, make a lot of money. I'm not sure what is meant by amateur? Back in the days of Button, if a competitive skater even gave out rental skates at a rink, he would be considered Pro. I really do no know if there is any difference between competitive; amateur; and professional??? Can anyone explain the three classes?

    Personally, I have no problem with Evgeni skating competitively in Sochi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joesitz View Post
    Some of these skaters when they perform in shows, make a lot of money. I'm not sure what is meant by amateur? Back in the days of Button, if a competitive skater even gave out rental skates at a rink, he would be considered Pro. I really do no know if there is any difference between competitive; amateur; and professional??? Can anyone explain the three classes?

    Personally, I have no problem with Evgeni skating competitively in Sochi.
    "competitive" is the replacement term for "amateur". the difference between "competitive/amateur" and "professional" is olympic eligibility, nothing more (well, that and the pros don't answer to the ISU)

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