Are judges able to "rank" skaters while they are judging?

[Mathman]

Seniorita, I don't know how to start a thread...

On the front page of each forum (for instance, The Edge or The Cafe), in the upper left just above the name of the forum there is a blue rectangle that says "+post new thread." Click there and away you go.

[seniorita]

Olympia thanx for your post, I ll bookmark it and search about it later in the week, it is always the worse week when I come back from vacations, I was working up until an hour ago

[seniorita]

You saw Snow White and the Three Stooges? I've only ever seen the last few minutes of it, on TV. I think Carol Heiss even sings! Having heard her speaking voice, I suspect she was dubbed.

yes I saw it, someone proposed it to me, it took me a while to find it, now I m searching the Romeo and Juliet you said me to watch it on the plane. The language is Russian? I think when I come back I ll open a new thread for all this.

Seniorita, I’m waiting for pix!

I was just replying to your mail about ICE decision now !pix from NY or pix from Prague shows? For the latter I wanted to post them here public but I m kinda embarrassed I couldn't find how to avoid the white foggy light and also the cameraman was in front of me so I was not very steady. But there they are( i really need to give me tips): https://picasaweb.google.com/patinag...eat=directlink
I love Sasha yellow adress and the number of Shen/Zhao was amazing, her white dress was gorgeous. Highlight for me was the Crocodile Jungle program! Big drawback, the guy who was singing Caruso was a nightmare, he ruined my dreamy Plu number.


Btw Weir is a very interesting person to talk to off ice, he is calm and friendly and pays attention to what you say, I stopped caring what people say about skaters and the image media create once I met some of them backstage and saw how they behaved to me that I m a nobody.

[demarinis5]

^Thank you for the great photos. Don't be embarrassed you really got some really fine shots of the skaters.
Glad you got to meet Johnny, he is a sweetheart.

[Joesitz]

yes I saw it, someone proposed it to me, it took me a while to find it, now I m searching the Romeo and Juliet you said me to watch it on the plane. The language is Russian? I think when I come back I ll open a new thread for all this.

Senorita. John Curry presented an R&J in his pro shows on stage. He used the Prokoviev score and followed the story thusly on ice. Toler Cranston makes a marvelous Tybalt. It maybe on youtube (in part).

[Olympia]

I'm not sure John Curry's R and J was the one Toller skated in. Toller skated in a televised production that featured I think Brian Pockar (a Canadian skater from the eighties) as Romeo. Toller was a splendid Tybalt. Dorothy Hamill may have been in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=032DwlgcNHo


The ballet movie I was referring to, Joe, was a very old filming of a Bolshoi Ballet production featuring Galina Ulanova as Juliet. You would love it; it's from the first great internationally available era of the Bolshoi, before Maya Plisetskaya. This could be it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq7-4QBfadY

[evangeline]

I'm not sure John Curry's R and J was the one Toller skated in. Toller skated in a televised production that featured I think Brian Pockar (a Canadian skater from the eighties) as Romeo. Toller was a splendid Tybalt. Dorothy Hamill may have been in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=032DwlgcNHo

Actually, Toller also skated to Prokofiev's Romeo and Juliet but I believe John Curry used different sections of the suite.

[Olympia]

Thanks, Evangeline. I couldn't remember Curry's--maybe it wasn't televised?--but I'll never forget the one Toller was in. Thank goodness some of it at least is on YouTube. What a treat. Toller's like Kurt and Janet Lynn: another example of a skater so good that he didn't need a world gold to validate it. You could watch him today and still be mesmerized by his freshness and technique, despite the fact that jumps have advanced.

[janetfan]

Thanks, Evangeline. I couldn't remember Curry's--maybe it wasn't televised?--but I'll never forget the one Toller was in. Thank goodness some of it at least is on YouTube. What a treat. Toller's like Kurt and Janet Lynn: another example of a skater so good that he didn't need a world gold to validate it. You could watch him today and still be mesmerized by his freshness and technique, despite the fact that jumps have advanced.

It is true jumps have advanced since Toller.
But when I watch Toller skate I get the feeling other things may have regressed. He had beautiful edges and superior balance and his posture and stretch appears to outclass most of today's skaters.

Very few Men in skating history seemed as enjoyable for me to watch as Toller. He was inventive and maybe it is best he was from an earlier era. The CoP would have stifled his creativity which is what set him apart.

After watching the Vancouver Olympics he said, "I watched with shock and awe and horror. I find the new marking system to be stupendously flawed -- as political and as inaccurate as the former one."

[Tonichelle]

I tend to ignore Toller in what he says just because he's so off on his opinions of Kurt's skating most of the time that he must be off on everything