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Then the 3T would be the lowest valued jump in his SP.
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One thing I find unfair in COP is that not only are there no bonus for any jump combo, the extra jump, often a triple, receives no GOE at all. GOE values for a quad combo are the same as those for a 3A or a single quad.
Please correct my thinking. Isn't Kevn vdPerren the only skater who is credited with a Quad/Quad combo?
Nobody has landed a 4-4, and few skaters have landed more than one type of quad.
I dont think KVDP or anyone else has been credited a quad /quad combo yet, unless I missed the note
and I can think of maybe five active skaters who've done a 4S in international competition
See, I was thinking of answering that with "the reigning world champion", because that would have been fun. And at least four others... maybe more, while I was busy with other things?^
Let me guess the one, Miki ANdo???
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The only thing I read about the Bonus credit, is that it must be innovative. All the permitted jumps have their own base values and goes included in the score. An extra air roation is still the same jump which gets a base value plus.
.How about a Flying Quad camel spins?
It's innovative and should get a bonus as much as anything else being rehashed.Under the current scoring system, it wouldn't be worth the amount of energy expended. The entry is "only" worth 1 level on the spin if it's considered a difficult entry.
Oh how some fans see only what is considered simple? A Flying Quad Camel has never been seen in figure skating, and it frightens those who have no name in skating, and want to win a competition without difficulty.
It's innovative and should get a bonus as much as anything else being rehashed.
Oh how some fans see only what is considered simple? A Flying Quad Camel has never been seen in figure skating, and it frightens those who have no name in skating, and want to win a competition without difficulty.
He's talking about ME because I asked him a question about his mythical new spin and he didn't like it....Hoo you talkin 'bout?
Maybe before debating whether skaters should do a 4S or a 4F in the SP, we should wait for them to actually land either jump in competition? Because last I checked, the 4F has not yet been landed, and I can think of maybe five active skaters who've done a 4S in international competition, and only one of them has done it more than once.
Buttercup said:and I can think of maybe five active skaters who've done a 4S in international competition and only one of them has done it more than once.
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Let me guess the one, Miki ANdo???
I like surprises, like when Brezina and Fernandez did their quads at Worlds - and it was the first time for Brezina to land any quad, let alone two different ones! Hypothetical quads can't beat that...Heh. You rational admirer of figure skating, you. Meaningless speculation is what the internet is for!!!!!
Yes, Joubert at 2006 CoR but not since (he also did it at the French Masters that year) - I guess injuries caught up with him, he's been dealing with medical issues on and off for several years now. IIRC, he did try a couple of times but popped it. I always thought he should try 4F instead, even with an edge call it would be worth a lot of points. Brezina could definitely do 4F, with the height he gets on the triple. I do sometimes worry about that boy's knees, though.Fernandez and Brezina at Worlds. Joubert's done it before too.
Well, you seem totally wrapped up in the CoP, and will not allow any form of innovation (mythical or not). Unless, of course you believe it is innovated to change a defined jump by its rotation only. It's still the same jump by definition.He's talking about ME because I asked him a question about his mythical new spin and he didn't like it....