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    Quote Originally Posted by wallylutz View Post
    You seemed to forget now ladies can do 3A in the SP, in addition to a 3/3 combo and there is one lady who plan to do just that. With an uninsipiring choreography and less than perfect element, as was the case with her 3/3, she can be vunlerable.
    Mao is planning a 3x3 in the SP? Interesting. Neither Mao or Miki have done one this season yet. Why the sudden change when the more conservative layout has worked for them? Why take the risk with Amano on the tech panel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krislite View Post
    Mao is planning a 3x3 in the SP? Interesting. Neither Mao or Miki have done one this season yet. Why the sudden change when the more conservative layout has worked for them? Why take the risk with Amano on the tech panel?
    My understanding is that Mao is planning a 3F/3Lo combo given that 3Lo is her best jump and she did get this combo credited as clean at the SP in the 2009 Worlds. But it's not 100% certain at this point. My guess is this can also be affected by the skating order and luck of draw. It's possible that if other contenders don't skate very well, her coach may instruct her to play it safe.

    I don't know what Miki has planned, but with Morozov still at helm for her, the threat of 3Lz/3Lo is always there. Morozov will also likely see what other ladies do and then decide in the last minute what Miki should really try.

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    http://www.thestar.com/sports/figure...on-and-off-ice

    Uberness of some skater's fans is infamous even among international media as this article points out. Clearly exemplified in this thread by some.
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    If Mao tries a 3/3 I'm gonna guess that it'll be under-rotated.

    From watching the practices I think Yuna will win this, she has the jumps and the speed. I like Mao's spins and spirals better but I just don't see her getting the jumps. I'd love for Mao to win this but I'm having doubts. As far as choregraphy I think Alissa has the best short this season it's just stunning even after seeing yuna's sp.

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    So far I only saw Yuna's practice video(are there any other ladies'?), and I like it a lot! Can't wait to see her performing it in full makeup and costume. It will be awesome.

    By the way, her Giselle is not full of ballet, but to say it has nothing to do with ballet is just .
    Sure, not much toe pointing, but aren't you forgetting something, like port de bras? It's so weird some ballet lovers always seem to ignore Yuna's beautiful port de bras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallylutz View Post
    My understanding is that Mao is planning a 3F/3Lo combo given that 3Lo is her best jump and she did get this combo credited as clean at the SP in the 2009 Worlds. But it's not 100% certain at this point. My guess is this can also be affected by the skating order and luck of draw. It's possible that if other contenders don't skate very well, her coach may instruct her to play it safe.

    I don't know what Miki has planned, but with Morozov still at helm for her, the threat of 3Lz/3Lo is always there. Morozov will also likely see what other ladies do and then decide in the last minute what Miki should really try.
    I've seen a recent video of Mao practicing a 3Loop+3Loop and 3Flip+3Loop. The former makes more sense in the SP since she needs the 3F for the solo triple out of footwork. She cannot afford the risk/cost of the 3Lutz in the SP, especially with the preceding footwork and then the added risk of the 3A to begin with.

    So if she goes for triple triples I think she'll save the 3F+3L for the LP and do a 3L+3L in the SP.

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    Wouldn't that be something if Mao did the 3A and the 3/3 after such a difficult year! Were her 3/3's clean in practice?

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    Mixed feelings about Yuna's sp..

    As for choreography wise, so far nothing particularly memorable except for her stomach grabbing... choreography before her 2A and another choreography right before her step sequence. But even with rather unmemorable choreography, the program wasn't boring, which is surprising I was greatly surprised when I realized her program was already over as she was doing her final combination spin in the program. I'm okay with her music cut since the time allotted for sp is considerably shorter than for lp; I'm actually glad that she's focused on portraying mad Giselle rather than trying to scramble everything together in one short program. Mad Giselle suits her style more too, I think, judging by how her more "innocent" "bright" program Die Fledermaus went compared to her other sp programs...

    So enough on Yuna.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gourry View Post

    By the way, her Giselle is not full of ballet, but to say it has nothing to do with ballet is just .
    Sure, not much toe pointing, but aren't you forgetting something, like port de bras? It's so weird some ballet lovers always seem to ignore Yuna's beautiful port de bras.
    Given that most elite female skaters and quite a number of elite male skaters take ballet lessons on a regular basis, generic ballet movements are fairly common in figure skating program and not just limited to ladies. Want to see a real competitive program with ballet focus? Take this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6zKfZVurJY

    It's quite obvious that when you compare the two, it's very hard to consider Kim's 2011 SP to be anything ballet like.

    So if skaters include one or two ballet like movement in their program given that many of them take ballet lessons regularly, does that prove their program has "a lot of ballet movements"? I think the answer is a clear no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magicalwords View Post
    But even with rather unmemorable choreography, the program wasn't boring, which is surprising I was greatly surprised when I realized her program was already over as she was doing her final combination spin in the program.
    I agree with you. I don't think Giselle will be YuNa's best, but there is still something about it that makes me watch.

    Let's be careful calling people trolls...I've seen most of the posters here before on other topics, it seems like there are many different opinions and preferences.

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    I agree people should be careful with the 'troll' word. I'm sick of hearing that anytime you don't like a Yuna or Mao program. I like both skaters, they're both incredible but I'm disappointed with Yuna's program, after taking so much time off I thought there would be more legendary like choreography. That doesn't make one a troll to state their views on a program, trolls= hate kind of speech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prettykeys View Post
    I agree with you. I don't think Giselle will be YuNa's best, but there is still something about it that makes me watch.
    Yes, there is definitely something special about the way she executes the choreography even though it was just a practice clip, I could definitely feel which parts she was trying to be dynamic and powerful and which parts she was being softer and more fluid. Yuna IMO is very good at controlling that and I think it's why I find it hard for myself to be bored by her programs.

    Hopefully the choreography will come alive when she has the costumes and makeup and everything in the real deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallylutz View Post
    My understanding is that Mao is planning a 3F/3Lo combo given that 3Lo is her best jump and she did get this combo credited as clean at the SP in the 2009 Worlds.
    Maybe she will show a tape from 2009 as part of her program.

    All I know so far is, I just saw Kim do a 3Lz/3T. All these fully rotated 3Lo combos that Mao and Miki are going to do -- I think I will wait until Friday before commenting further.

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    I watched Yuna's practice clip once and thought she looked very strong.

    I didn't expect Yuna to be skating like Oksana or even Sasha. Yuna is a gifted athlete and skater. She is also an elegant, exciting skater.

    I think when she comes out in costume and makeup the SP will be fine. It still depends how she skates it the night of the competition. We saw a practice run trhough and nothing more.

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    To Parma: Be cool, man (or lady). What will be, will be. Everything will play out the way it will play out, no matter what anyone says on the Internet.

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