Seriously and as much as I like him and I sympathize him and his lack of maths, Oda has skated to too many worlds and the result is the same, he is very talented and skates very well but it is amazing how many times he has missed a medal, obviously repetition doesnt help him. if I was JF I would send Hanyu from now on to warm up for Sochi, he has proven to be a very good competitor with nerves and concetration, given that I dont want neither Dai or Kozuka to stay home I d choose Oda.It is unfair I know but it is more unfair to keep down Hanyu (ok I m un uber).
I was kind of replying to Joe, the japanese spots are not enough for the top skaters they have, where did I suggest a politiking.
On another note, if ISU doesn't change zayak rule, Oda may make same mistake again. Now we know that he's learned nothing from his mistakes.
Last edited by Bluebonnet; 05-06-2011 at 07:59 AM.
Oda's mistake in the long program exposes a huge fault in the IJS Zayak rules for combinations.
Oda's first two passes were 4T+3T and 3A+3T. Those were his monster point-grabbers. If he couldn't pull off the quad, OK, he scaled back to triple-triple and salvaged as much as he could. So far so good.
But now because he made a mistake on element #1, he is prohibited from doing element #2. I do not see any sense in that. The rules should be modified so that once an element is over, for good or ill, that's that and you are allowed to go on with your program.
At the very least he should get credit for the triple Axel.
Think about it. You mess up your quad toe, so they take away your triple Axel, too?
Chinese men used to be very strong in jumps, multiple quads. I remember Hongbo said that one of the Chinese single skaters did a second quad in the middle of his program and the judges even didn't pay attention to. So the next time the skater extended four fingers to the judges before doing his quad. It was so hilarious.
Quads must be so easy for him, no big deal at all. Not only could he do it in the middle of the program, he even had the mind to alert the judges instead of focusing on skating down the length of the rink! Maybe he should have pointed his index and middle fingers at his own eyes while directly facing the judges!
Do you have his name?
Last edited by Violet Bliss; 05-07-2011 at 02:05 PM.
Unfortunately he had a stiff presentation (Goebel was more flexible ) which was poorly received, especially by European and Russian judges.
^ Here is a document where you can look up the countries of the judges at worlds, four continents, etc.
For instance, for worlds it was:
Men: Austria, Bulgaria, Croatia, Finland, Great Britain, Hungary, Lithuania, Poland, Spain, Switzerland, Turkey, and USA
For ladies: Austria, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czechoslovakia, Finland, Italy, Lithuania, Russia, Slovakia, Spain, Switzerland, and Uzbekistan
There are, of course, not many national federations outside of Europe to choose from.
In Li's case, I don't think it was anything against him personally or against Chinese skaters. The judges just liked the smooth, fluid style of skaters like Yagudin, Klimkin and Abt better.