Men's LP

I feel for Nobu his program was great :disapp:

Is it Nobu's spins and steps that let him down or is it the GOE on his jumps!!! Judges dont seem to go with him and I would have given him 80 on TES

But glad he did not finish 7th again, I was worried after Amodio skated

I think it was a case of oh No!! for dai and he knew after that accident it had gone!! at least he was World champ and Olympic Bronze Medalist. Maybe he will retire now!!

I think Joubert will also retire after finishing a dismal 8th after a good free skate!!

I would have had

Chan 1st
Kozuka 2nd
Oda 3rd (Oda was robbed!!!) (How can Oda finish behind Gachinski, Brezina (2 fluffs) Dai (2 fluffs)

MichaelK said:

I'm still puzzled by the high PCS for Gachinski, he got more for choreography than Amodio (7.93 vs. 7.64), can anyone justify this?

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Yes. Worlds is in Russia. Simple as that.

bibi24 said:

I am ready to watch this whole thing again on EuroSport. lol

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Me too LMAO. Can Americans watch it though? Link?

Taka.....WOW, just WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
one word: FLAWLESS!!!!
I'm SO glad Chan and Kozuka, who have the best skating skills, got the gold and the silver!!!!
CONGRATS!!!
I don't like Gachinski...but I LOVED Brezina!!
and I'm sooo sad for Dai.....

Germanice said:

Congrats to the podium ... glad for Japan got a medal at last!!!

Yeah, Chan is World Champion now, but the habit of certain fans and most of all the judges to handle him like he's the "second coming" got waaay overboard ...

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Actually, the generous scoring was not limited to Patrick, as the LP scores make evident. The SP session admittedly gave off such a semblance, but that's because PAtrick had the SOHL while the others were below par. I have to say, though, crazy judging and a crazy final flight in general.

I give Gachinksy credit for skating his best. Plus, I never saw Mishin so happy to lose by 40 points

What fun, and congratulations to the medal winners. Can't believe Nobu is not on the podium after the way he skated.

russell30 said:

I feel for Nobu his program was great :disapp:

Is it Nobu's spins and steps that let him down or is it the GOE on his jumps!!! Judges dont seem to go with him and I would have given him 80 on TES

But glad he did not finish 7th again, I was worried after Amodio skated

I think it was a case of oh No!! for dai and he knew after that accident it had gone!! at least he was World champ and Olympic Bronze Medalist. Maybe he will retire now!!

I think Joubert will also retire after finishing a dismal 8th after a good free skate!!


I would have had

Chan 1st
Kozuka 2nd
Oda 3rd (Oda was robbed!!!) (How can Oda finish behind Gachinski, Brezina (2 fluffs) Dai (2 fluffs)

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He broke the Zayak rule. AGAIN. Lost 12+ points.

my, such a young podium. Bodes well for Sochi.

Congratulations to Patrick, Taka, and Artur!

Each accomplished a personal first and quite a feat! Be proud.

OT, but who was the woman in the stands who looked like Aung San Suu Kyi? The cameras kept going back to her.

I'm happy about Kozuka and Patrick but otherwise this competition was kind of a letdown. I really don't want another incarnation of Plushy to dominate men's skating with all jumps and no in-betweens. Dai was a champ, but he didn't have a chance after they didn't let him restart his program. Oda - give me a break. He had the medal in the bag and threw it away. He needs to find a coach who can teach him not to waste elements. Amodio - big talent, wonderful intensity, but in the middle he made me start thinking about rules and lyrics (not to mention how Blades would rate his sex life), not his skating... doubt this is the way to become a champion.

I didn't see the US men or anyone before Ten.

Men - Free Skating

Result Details

1 Patrick CHAN CAN 187.96 96.44 91.52 9.25 8.93 9.11 9.11 9.36 0.00 #19
2 Takahiko KOZUKA JPN 180.79 98.53 82.26 8.39 7.93 8.39 8.21 8.21 0.00 #23
3 Artur GACHINSKI RUS 163.52 85.66 77.86 7.71 7.29 7.93 7.93 8.07 0.00 #21
4 Brian JOUBERT FRA 156.38 80.80 75.58 7.86 7.07 7.75 7.57 7.54 0.00 #13
5 Michal BREZINA CZE 156.11 83.19 74.92 7.64 7.14 7.57 7.50 7.61 2.00 #16
6 Daisuke TAKAHASHI JPN 152.72 71.64 82.08 8.50 7.93 7.86 8.29 8.46 1.00 #22
7 Florent AMODIO FRA 152.04 74.98 77.06 7.71 7.29 7.89 7.64 8.00 0.00 #24
8 Richard DORNBUSH USA 151.88 78.24 73.64 7.46 7.07 7.43 7.29 7.57 0.00 #15
9 Nobunari ODA JPN 150.69 72.25 78.44 8.29 7.71 7.79 7.75 7.68 0.00 #20
10 Javier FERNANDEZ ESP 149.10 84.32 65.78 6.68 6.11 6.64 6.64 6.82 1.00 #7
11 Ross MINER USA 147.53 78.75 68.78 7.00 6.64 7.00 6.82 6.93 0.00 #11
12 Ryan BRADLEY USA 142.26 72.74 69.52 6.86 6.54 7.11 7.04 7.21 0.00 #17
13 Tomas VERNER CZE 140.93 65.85 76.08 7.71 7.36 7.61 7.50 7.86 1.00 #14
14 Denis TEN KAZ 138.99 71.05 69.94 7.21 6.61 7.04 7.07 7.04 2.00 #18
15 Peter LIEBERS GER 137.86 73.94 63.92 6.50 6.18 6.46 6.39 6.43 0.00 #10
16 Anton KOVALEVSKI UKR 136.48 69.48 67.00 6.71 6.43 6.75 6.79 6.82 0.00 #9
17 Samuel CONTESTI ITA 131.81 63.53 68.28 6.89 6.39 6.89 6.86 7.11 0.00 #12
18 Kevin VAN DER PERREN BEL 128.76 67.34 61.42 6.57 5.75 6.18 6.25 5.96 0.00 #8
19 Jorik HENDRICKX BEL 127.50 68.08 59.42 6.00 5.75 6.14 5.89 5.93 0.00 #4
20 Paolo BACCHINI ITA 124.17 64.87 59.30 6.04 5.32 6.25 6.00 6.04 0.00 #1
21 Kevin REYNOLDS CAN 122.87 63.65 62.22 6.39 5.93 6.07 6.36 6.36 3.00 #5
22 Kim LUCINE MON 113.12 58.56 55.56 5.64 5.18 5.71 5.61 5.64 1.00 #2
23 Nan SONG CHN 112.31 58.81 54.50 5.71 5.29 5.46 5.43 5.36 1.00 #3
24 Joey RUSSELL CAN 107.04 50.62 58.42 6.04 5.71 5.71 5.86 5.89 2.00 #6

Congratulation to Patrick, Taka and Artur!!! Very nice podium indeed. Unfortunate circumstances for Dai with his skate problem and the fall in his program , but I still love him.

OMG Taka what a skate! When he took the ice I saw a look of determination in his eyes as if he was saying to himself
ok my team has faltered so far, lets rock, and he did.

2 great programs from Patrick and he should be pleased, I know I am and finally Artur on the podium how great is that.
I am a very happy fan today!!!!

eta: Shout out to Brian he skated a very nice program and that costume he was wearing was deeeevine!

Protocals already:
** There the judges go again with all the edge calls on the flips.
CHAN: Two judges gave him 2- 10s each. And mostly 9s, some judge gave 8s in 4 of the 5 PCS categories. Positive GOE on everything except the 3A.
KOZUKA: My god -- almost 17 points in GOE. Amazing. Definitely got underscored in PCS---7s and 8s with a few 9s tossed in.
GACHINSKI: Tech helped him...Had three double-digit elements (4T, 3A-2T-2L, 3Z-3T); PCS seems high--no way he should be getting 8s. He's getting Jeremy Abbott level PCS. No way.
JOUBERT - Nice comeback from Joubert though he left points on the table with a Level 2 step sequence and TWO level 1 spins.
BRENZINA - Big point getters on the 4T, 4S, 3A-2T and 3F-2T. The falls clearly hurt him here.
DAISUKE - Well the 1T was not helpful--big negative GOE, also negative GOE on the 3A and on the 3S for the fall...and an edge call on the lutz, and a level 2 spin. opps.
FLORENT - Edge call on the flip, only negative GOE element, clearly no 3-3 and the two double jumps lowered his score.
DORNBUSH - Only Negative GOE on the 3A and double 2S, as expected, toherwise some big point getters with the 3A-3T and the 3Z-2T-2T
ODA - Yep invalid element on the 3A-3T Otherwise, all postive GOE (11 points!) He would have been on the podium if not for that invalid element.
FERNANDEZ -- big point geters with 4T, 4S and 3A-3T, but not much GOE. Also he got docked on PCS
MINER — All positive GOE (a little over 8 points total).
BRADLEY — UR on the second 4T and 3F. Negative GOE on second 4T, 3S-3T-2T and 3F.

russell30 said:

I feel for Nobu his program was great :disapp:

Is it Nobu's spins and steps that let him down or is it the GOE on his jumps!!! Judges dont seem to go with him and I would have given him 80 on TES

But glad he did not finish 7th again, I was worried after Amodio skated

I think it was a case of oh No!! for dai and he knew after that accident it had gone!! at least he was World champ and Olympic Bronze Medalist. Maybe he will retire now!!

I think Joubert will also retire after finishing a dismal 8th after a good free skate!!

I would have had

Chan 1st
Kozuka 2nd
Oda 3rd (Oda was robbed!!!) (How can Oda finish behind Gachinski, Brezina (2 fluffs) Dai (2 fluffs)

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You guys should STOP retiring people. Let them decide when to retire. And by the way, Brian will continue for sure.

herios said:

You guys should STOP retiring people. Let them decide when to retire. And by the way, Brian will continue for sure.

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AGREE'd

Kozuka had a lower base value than Chan but thanks to GOE(which were deserved, everything he did was flawless) he beat Chan on TES. But he looses 10 points on the PCS to Chan. Isn't a bit too much 10 points?

Well, they just skipped half the canadian national anthem. Nice

So Mrs P, what did I say that the americans won't get the three spots for the next year? They were too many ahead of them after the SP to have realistic chance, and none of them excells yet in the PCS arena.

MichaelK said:

I'm still puzzled by the high PCS for Gachinski, he got more for choreography than Amodio (7.93 vs. 7.64), can anyone justify this?

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I love Amodio, but I'm actually surprised the gulf there isn't bigger. Choreography/composition measures how the program was constructed, how it uses ice, how unified it was. And given that Amodio's program had so much dancing in one spot, a seemingly random mish-mash of music, it really isn't a surprise it's lower than Gachinski's. I would've had it lower, it was a very lousily constructed program (which is what this score measures).

spun silver said:

oda - give me a break. He had the medal in the bag and threw it away. He needs to find a coach who can teach him not to waste elements. Amodio - big talent, wonderful intensity, but in the middle he made me start thinking about rules and lyrics (not to mention how blades would rate his sex life), not his skating... Doubt this is the way to become a champion.

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hahaha