Question: according to the rules, the combo for ladies short must be
I took that to mean a 3-2, a 2-3, or a 3-3. Am I correct? If I am, and my interpretation of the following is correctShort Program must include a Jump Combination consisting of two jumps:
Senior Men- double and triple or two triple or quadruple and a double or triple;
other categories - double and triple or two triple;
Junior Ladies - double + double combination is also permitted
That means Phaneufs 2-2 combination should've been -3 . One judge gave her 0 (the rest did give -3, so I suspect my understanding is correct).SP: One or more rev. less than required is GOE -3
So I don't think it's a judge being bribed with Cuban cigars/paychecks (as someone suggested), but simply judges not knowing the rules. Which is also bad.
Last edited by ImaginaryPogue; 04-29-2011 at 10:40 AM.
guys, if you just take a look at the protocol, you would know why certain skaters earned higher scores than others. seems like lots of ppl are complaining about yuna's layback. but the truth be told, free leg position isn't the ONLY thing that the judges are looking for in a layback spin. For one thing, she has an incredible back position and the speed at which she spins is pretty impressive.
Also, lots of ppl here seem upset regarding her triple lutz. usually a failed attempt at a triple jump entails UR and it's the underrotation of a jump that can really bring the score down. yuna's triple lutz wasn't downgraded, which meant that she still received full credit for her triple and thanks to the new judging system, the negative GOE wasn't as deadly.
Thanks evangeline, I actually just double checked that. That stated, I have yet to see that rule applied.
But Alissa has MORE speed. And she keeps it throughout the spin. Yuna starts to lose it when she does her bielman. Same with the other spins. Alissa is below Yuna in +GOE in all the spins. That is not right.
Technical question: is there a factor used in GOE? If so, Yuna did get a -1.5 on her 3Z which woudl be reasonable if there was a .5 factor.
ya I mean it was so sloppy I thought she looked like she went back to skating like how she did in her junior worlds days. I expected she was going to improve a lot more but she has degressed imo. I think it shows Orser was a great coach, and I agree with the other poster who said Orser would never allowed her pumping twice like that. It's sad, I was watching and asked myself how could this be the same skater who was so brilliant in the lp at the Olympics.
I'm just going to hope Yuna is less sloppy in her LP since, I mean, she's clearly going to win and the internet is going to get ugly if that skate is anything like this one.
The stage was set for Yuna to blow everyone out of the water, but now all top 10 skaters have realistic shot at podium. Tomorrow is going to be absolutely exciting Rachel Flatt was correct when she said that this Worlds would be won by a skater who fights the hardest.
Alissa had the best spins of the night no doubt about it, she should have had the highest scores. There should be a complaint filed, it is so obvious.
Since there is no Canadian judge in this event, the Canadian federation paid off all the judges. That explains everything.
So does Mr. Amano need full time security now?
Mao got a downgrade and an UR, with her 3A worth only 2.09. Her PCS is 3rd, 2.20 lower than Yuna's.
Wait, I didn't read every single comment here but I don't think people are saying that the only distinguishing factor between Yuna and Miki is speed. Yea, Yuna skates with more speed but she has the overall package in artistry. I don't think anyone can deny that Yuna skates with elegance and style.
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