If you go to the USFSA site and click on "about us," the mission statement is pretty clear on that point.
That is what United States Figure Skating is all about (Charlie Brown )U.S. Figure Skating is the national governing body for the sport of figure skating in the United States. U.S. Figure Skating is a member of the International Skating Union (ISU), the international federation for figure skating, and is a member of the U.S. Olympic Committee (USOC).
U.S. Figure Skating is composed of member clubs, collegiate clubs, school-affiliated clubs, individual members, Friends of Figure Skating and Basic Skills programs. It is one of the strongest and largest governing bodies within the winter Olympic movement, with more than 176,000 members in member clubs, collegiate clubs, school-affiliated clubs and Basic Skills programs.
The charter member clubs numbered seven in 1921 when the association was formed and first became a member of the ISU. To date, U.S. Figure Skating has almost 750 member clubs.
The U.S. Figure Skating Basic Skills Program was created in 1968 to serve the needs of both the recreational and competitive skater. Since its inception, the program has taught more than 1.5 million people how to skate. During the 2009-10 season, Basic Skills welcomed 44 new skating schools, bringing the number of active programs throughout the country to 990.
U.S. Figure Skating's national headquarters---located in Colorado Springs, Colo.--is also home to the World Figure Skating Museum & Hall of Fame, which is toured by more than 5,000 visitors annually.
More than 1,000 volunteers serve on U.S. Figure Skating's Board of Directors and numerous committees. Thousands of other volunteers dedicate their time to club activities, judging, officiating and competition management.
All but a tiny handful of these 167,000 will never have any contact with ISU championships, except as a dream for children in the competitive track. That is why I hold the opinion that fairness in the selection process trumps all -- every young competitive skater deserves his or her fair shot at this exciting adventure. To me, that is more important than national gloating over how many medals we have won.
The points totals from Nationals between Miner and Abbott were SO CLOSE that the USFSA should have had both guys compete at 4CC and selected the 3rd representative that way. They were virtually tied in the final points. I do believe that the USFSA should have adopted a European manner of selecting the team in this special case.
I'm still that Bradley thought going in that he had a shot at winning a medal at Worlds. Everything about his basic skating needs a complete overhaul before that will ever happen. He seemed so stunned by his marks in the kiss & cry as if he couldn't believe the marks he was receiving. The international judges have always rightly scored him low. He has always lacked speed and his skating has always been muscled and labored. That justifiably does not translate into high PCS marks. He was seriously overmarked at Nationals and it still really bugs me that he got full credit for his quads in the LP.
I find Miner so bland and boring, even more so than Todd Eldredge. He needs to make people take more notice of his skating because I find that he lacks impact and spark and is completely forgettable.
Dornbush is going to be interesting to see develop I think. I really liked how he talked in his interviews that he was going to be analyzing his performance, critiquing everything, and applying everything he learned at Worlds to make his skating better. I liked his energy at Worlds; he needs to clean up his overall style, hold his movements out longer, and work on being more smooth and polished.
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The thing is, it is NOT a rule; it's a tradition, when the USFS team had top contestants and expected to place in Nationals. They haven't had that for quite some time. The Rule can remain, but will it be followed that the Panel making the decision on the makeup of the World Team only considers injury to a prominent skater to be on the Team.
The fact is in 2011, the star didn't help; the two newbees didn't help, and all were chosen because of their podium finish at a Nationals, and not as other Feds who consider the makeup to be a study in information garnered over time. Did you notice that Russia threw out their winner of the Men's Nationals and replaced him with Gachinsky. Would you say they should not have selected Gachinsky?
Last edited by Joesitz; 04-30-2011 at 01:05 PM.
I don't think it mattered who the USFSA sent there were not going to get 3 spots. Even though a lot the same skaters who competed a year ago were there the field for this felt much deeper.
Optimal results at Worlds is not a USFS position? What is their position? Since when is fairness considered in a team selection? I believe that Figure Skating results are bent on nationalties and not on athletes. The best skater wins from whatever country and Federations are compelled to send their very best. There is a lot to consider in the selection.
If we think about the top five, could Jeremy have been there? If we think about the top 10 could Adam be there? They were not even considered based upon a faulty decision due to a one time result at a nationals.
Can anyone tell me about Fariness being the way to go for selection a Worlds Team?
Oh, on Canada's three Men. Unfortunately, Sawyer did not live up to his High Tech Quality, which would even top Gachinsky's. he could have easily been top 12.
I don't see many Canadian Men in GPs or their Nationals, so I can't say another skater would have made top 12.
But I have hope that at USFS will start to adopt the JFS approach one day. Maybe.
I think that the US judges like a good sob story, and Ryan Bradley was it this year. He is a fan favorite, he's very personable, and some feel he should've been sent over an underperforming Johnny last year. This was sort of a gift to him. I think everyone knew he wouldn't medal (and he probably did, too, deep in his heart.) But he should have gotten one of the three spots, at least based on his great SP and OK LP.
However, I think it was a big mistake not sending the only "famous" person to this competition. Jeremy Abbott is liked by the judges, and would have been gotten good components scores (possibly) even if he made some errors. Richard and Ross, as unknowns, would not.
I would reserve one spot based on performances in the 4CC or GPF of that year. If someone who didn't make the team (based on nationals) medals at one of those competitions over someone who did (but not the champion), judges should consider changing the rules.
This year, however, it wouldn't work because Ross and Richard didn't go to 4CC, so we don't know if they would have beaten Jeremy. It's possible that one of them would have, and the team would remain the same. The ladies' choices would be a different story, however.
Mirai did beat someone at 4CC who beat her at nationals. That person--who I now think will make a better chemist than figure skater--lost the potential 3rd spot and said she had a broken leg.They should've sent Mirai. I know she has her issues, but afaik, her leg isn't broken!
Did you confuse Jeremy with Jeffrey Buttle?
Last Years Worlds top 10 = points for each placement;
GPs and GPF = top eight for each GP placement, and GPF gets double the points;
US Nationals = top ten for each placement - no doubling
4CC = I'm not sure since it is limited to entrants. The GPs will somehow have all the top players involved.
Also a few specialists from previous US medalists opinions may also contriute to the selection in cases of ties.
Originally Posted by JoesitzI am dumbstruck by this exchange. Even grown-ups should care about fairness. (Crazy, I know.)Originally Posted by Kwanford Wife
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