05-11-2011, 02:40 PM
05-12-2011, 08:09 AM
Originally Posted by mskater93
What a pink dress's approval can do to people....
05-12-2011, 11:46 AM
At the rink. Again.
Bolded is mine, but it was written and was attributed to DorisP who did NOT write that comment.
Originally Posted by let`s talk
05-12-2011, 12:55 PM
Really bring it guys! I expect their Rumba to be amazing. Heck it was amazing a couple years ago. However, I'd like to see Tessa join Charlie in the facial acting class. She has 3 expressions, and has been using them for years. 1. I adore my brand new puppy. He's perfect (while staring at Scott) 2. I'm so brave and trying to be sexy. I have my first training bra! (start of Charleston OD and Samba FD) 3. I'm so annoyed/hissy fit (Their I dare you to move exhibition). Again, she's never had to do more, and I know she can do it
Thats what Tessa post about Tessa and all other thing you coule read:
Last edited by npa; 05-12-2011 at 04:03 PM.
05-12-2011, 05:21 PM
On the Ice
I somehow missed this in that thread. That's hilarious and quite apt.
Originally Posted by npa
05-13-2011, 01:05 AM
Ok, that's it. I've been a member of this forum for years, but unfortunately have not been able to post here consistently for some time because of personal matters. I have been reading many of the posts here and frankly some of the tone has gotten a little silly.
Originally Posted by npa
So I have to assume that either this NPA person is completely devoid of the capacity to distiguish between basic constructive criticism delivered without malice and an attack post, or does not understand some of the nuances of English or he/she is simply trying to stir up the pot to create controversy. Doris wrote this post nearly three months ago after 4CC at which the begining portion of Voir's free dance was revealed. It was delivered in the context of what she would like to see both at worlds this year (when their participation was still greatly in doubt) and also what the top teams could/should be working on for next season. There was not one ounce of venom in what she wrote. In fact much of her comments were written out of concern for Tessa's injury and avoiding further harm. Similar critiques have been made over the years by fans, judges and coaches about many ice dancers being too one note in their expresssions (Belbin, Krylova, Charlie White, etc.). Doris was not unique in this. There is nothing wrong with offering useful notes meant only to help improve the quality of skating or performance we all enjoy watching. Doing so with a hint of humor, as Doris did, makes that process that much more enjoyable. I have never read anything from her that is not meant to further discussion and frequently educate the rest of us on matters about which we might be less informed. For all that she has contributed to this site, she deserves more respect that the above comment displays.
As for the tone on this thread and others, no skater or professioal level athlete, regardless of their accomplishments, is infallible. They all have weaknesses which they can stand to improve. I think, in part because of the emotional component of skating, we fans have a tendency to too quickly anoint the current champion in any discipline as being invincible and the greatest we have seen. This is never fair to them or their competition. This is a sport and if any one skater or team were thoroughly unbeatable, then there would be no point to the holding the competitions. Some champions win primarily due to their innate talent and natural affinity for their sport. They make everything look easy. Other champions win primarily due to their tremendous work ethic and drive. That is not to say that the former are not hard workers or that the latter are not talented, but each has their respective strengths. Either approach can win and over the course of most sports, it's fair to say that the both categories win about 50% of the time. Sport need both of these elements in order to be successful. It's also what makes rivalries so compelling. I think we all know which categories Voir and Marlie fall into and that's why they largely appeal to different groups.
Now it's patently ridiculous to continue this silliness where some fans attack others over perceived slights against skaters we only see on TV or the internet. Very few of us know or will ever have the chance to even meet (autograph signings do not count) any of our favorite skaters. So all of our opinions and feelings about them are derived from mere glimpses into portions of their lives and our own projections. These skaters are not our friends. They are athletes and performers whom we root for and enjoy watching, nothing more. When they retire and move on their presence will be missed and their contributions appreciated, but others will come along to take their place and give us new things to cheer about and, yes, debate. Viewing this silliness in that context makes this all seen rather trivial.
05-13-2011, 01:54 AM
Constable , Costume Police
05-13-2011, 08:16 AM
Good post, jcoates
I'm sorry to hear that (hopefully it's more life is busy than anything bad), but I'm glad you're still around.
Originally Posted by jcoates
05-13-2011, 02:28 PM
OK, so you think Doris post was right with this post.
The problem is not WHAT she said, but HOW she did this. This was disrespect to Tessa, how Doris made this comment.
Like this post about Tessa is fat.
Notice - to post something, like that is disrespect to any of skater (IMHO).
But maybe some people couldnt be happy for there favorite skaters and need to degrade there rivals.
05-13-2011, 02:43 PM
Wicked Yankee Girl