not only that, but until the US ladies are consistently strong, even if they get 3 this year, will they retain 3 spots after the next worlds? it's not like it's the olympics next year already.
of course it's good to have had that spot even ONE year, one more US lady has worlds experience on her resume, but i think the US ladies are on really on the border line--even if they scrape by using the 5+6=11 math this year, next year it will be back to 2 again. let's not paint it as though rachael committed some grave injustice against us figure skating--and us figure skating doesn't seem to mind so much because there's been no new developments since phil hersh made his noise, far as i know.
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Rachael's grave injustice was to herself to be honest.
Reputations are very difficult to come by but super easy to break. She was treading on thin ice (no pun intended) in the first place. I mean her scores had just reached the point where they were actually giving her GOEs on her jumps and decent PCS scores. Her tanking at worlds will hurt her, not only in the USFSA's eyes but her shaky international cred took a hit as well.
Mirai is a bit too erratic to hang your hat on, but if there's one skater in the US who has everything necessary to contend with the likes of Yu-Na, Miki, Mao and the like, it's Mirai. Alissa lacks the speed, power, and technical content, and Rachael lacks the aesthetics and appeal...
Agnes and Christina have a shot, but they'll be paying their dues for a while...
did you see all the dues gachinski, world medalist, paid? ^__^
i kid, i kid. it's true about reputation playing a role in scores.
i also think mirai is the us lady with most potential. mirai is for me the most aesthetic to watch as well--for all the praise alissa gets i prefer mirai's camel spins, mirai's spiral, mirai's stretch and mira's smile most especially (what can i say, i'm shallow like that mirai though needs more consistency and her layback is less beautiful than ashley wagner's, so all the us ladies have some crowning glory and some warts. i wanted the US to get 3 spots to maximize mirai's chance to MAKE the world team, actually, i just found the words directed to rachael a bit... well, harsh.
anyway, next season is brand new, and if rachael is the fast horse out of the gate and does well on the GP, while mirai is again up and down, i wouldn't bet on the usfsa not giving rachael her usual bouquet at nationals, for all the talk about how this will forever brand her in the usfsa's eyes.
UGH, don't even remind me of that. That was such a crock of you-know-what.Some skaters can fall, pop jumps and still score decently...but they should have known that the international judges are very iffy when it comes to Rachael. Anytime they can help it, they don't put her in first. Case in point: both of her GP assignments this year. At NHK, Carolina, with all of those mistakes and that junior level jump layout, beat her out for gold. Skate America: she loses to a newby, Kanako Murakami, at a "home" event, by 2 points. Being that she's a national champ, Olympian and veteran senior, you'd think the judges would have spotted her those 2 points in PCS or GOEs...nope.
Exactly, but I think there is enough depth to maximize chances of keeping 3 spots if we were to send 3 skaters. As it stands, it's a vicious cycle. At least one member of our team folds, and has been doing so since 2008, the year we lost 3 spots in the first place.not only that, but until the US ladies are consistently strong, even if they get 3 this year, will they retain 3 spots after the next worlds? it's not like it's the olympics next year already.
Perhaps "grave injustice" is a tad strong wording (then again, though, it's probably just a blunt way of telling it like it is), but certainly can't turn the blame to Czisny- even if she didn't fall in the FS, she would have been 3rd at best- still not good enough for 3 spots. If Rachel had been clean? Probably would have hung on to 8th. Just would eek out 3 spots.True. Rachael didn't do a grave injustice to US skating... the whole notion of the 3 spots vs 2 spots is a silly arguement since the spots need to be earned. If US Ladies didn't get it done, then tough.
So, like I said before, one or more members of the team keep failing to deliver, and that's the problem. Until BOTH our team members can skate the way they skated at home, we will continue to have only 2 spots.
Although, she faces tough competition against Alissa's megawatt-er.Originally Posted by skfan
there are some smiles i love, even without straight teeth, and there are some crest-commercial worthy smiles that i just... turn away from. that's all right though, i get all the kicks that you get from alissa's smile when i watch carolina kostner. LOL
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Despite the physical risk she took, what happened to the three women on the podium at Nationals was the best thing for them:
1. Alissa gained confidence by placing fifth at Worlds. She basically has affirmation that she is among the best.
2. Rachael is getting a kick in the pants for finishing 12th not from us, but from her. She's gonna do all she can to get back what she had in 2010--maybe, as another poster put it, she needs to do more, instead of less (ie--attend school, skate, and do other things). she seems to thrive on a full plate.
3. Not going to Worlds is gonna make Mirai want it more.
I have a pathological need for my athletes to have swagger. I NEED that smirk and that innate confidence to root for them - to fight for the death for them. That demand that we not only love them - but that we have no choice in the matter.
As for MiRai... she's got the complete package. Everything but the mental piece. I am praying its immaturity and not simply lack of will. Time will tell.